[NA-Discuss] "What's At Stake" gTLD conference

[Antony Van Couvering]

FUD sucks and hurts everyone and there's far too much of it in this industry.  On the other hand, ignoring reality isn't very helpful either.

Looking at the realities of ICANN's processes, the studies that the GAC wants done *after* all new TLDs have been in operation for a while, etc. -- what do people here think is a reasonable estimate for when Round 2 happens?

I'm asked by potential clients, "When will we see Round 2"?   What should I answer?

I don't say "now or never," but I do tell them I don't think we'll see a new round for at least a few years -- which is my honest best guess.   Furthermore, if they have a common trademark like "United," a competing application from another "united" trademark holder is perfectly possible in this round.   If they have a coined, unique name like "Xerox" then they can easily wait for Round 2 or 3 or whenever.   So the impetus to apply in this round is different for different brand holders. 

Antony


On Oct 20, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote:

> Bret
> 
> I've been hearing the same thing from quite a few people - including potential applicants for this round.
> 
> Personally I'd hate to see the good and positive aspects of new Tlds being overshadowed by FUD being touted as "advice" by some of the new tld crowd
> 
> Regards
> 
> Michele
> 
> Mr. Michele Neylon
> Blacknight
> http://Blacknight.tel
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> Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity
> 
> On 20 Oct 2011, at 21:35, "Bret Fausett" <bfausett at internet.law.pro> wrote:
> 
>> I really liked the idea that ICANN announce now when it will have the next open application window as a way to take pressure off this round. The "now or never" idea that a lot of consultants and back-end registries are pitching is both factually wrong and, I think, detrimental to the process. Scaring people into operating Internet infrastructure won't be good for anyone, including the company that receives the delegation of something it wasn't really sure it wanted anyway. "Now or never" also will substantially increase the number of applications, which will complicate the evaluation and launch process.
>> 
>> I'd like to see ICANN announce now that it will open another application window in January, 2013. That would give the companies sitting on the fence comfort that they won't be left out, and we all will be able to see whether what comes out of this first round is worth emulating. My expectation is that after seeing what new TLDs really look like, with all of their complexities and expenses, some of the companies now thinking of how to do this will decide not to pursue it at all. For the undecided, I think it's better to watch and learn than to learn while operating a registry. 
>> 
>>     Bret
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 20, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
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>>> Is anyone from NARALO going to this conference?
>>> 
>>> http://www.cadna.org/Whats-At-Stake/
>>> 
>>> It seems like a very useful approach with which we might want to associate
>>> ourselves. Yes, much of it involves major brandholders scared by the influx
>>> of gTLDs, but it seems that there is much common ground between that group's
>>> skepticism about the program and that of ICANN At-Large.
>>> 
>>> As one example of how this may be interesting, apparently gTLD consultants
>>> are unwelcome at the event:
>>> http://domainincite.com/whats-at-stake-conference-bans-new-gtld-consultants/
>>> ...
>>> boo hoo.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada
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