[LAC-Discuss] Fwd: Re: [icann-board] Registrant-reseller issues]

[Carlton A Samuels]

All:

I agree that education and community pressure might be useful in extracting
solution to whatever these registrant-reseller issues may be.  But I would
urge us not to go too far down the road here.

 

We cannot avoid the fact that these are, by their very nature, contract
disputes.  So under these circumstances, I think it would be prudent for
disputants to lead with the UDRP process or tort law, as appropriate.
Afterall, ICANN cannot and may not be expected to regulate every aspect of
this thing of ours!

 

Carlton

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Spanish Version

Todos:

 

Convengo que la educacion y la presion de la comunidad pudieron ser útiles
en extraer la solucion a lo que estas ediciones del registrant-revendedor
pueden ser. Pero nos impulsaria no ir llanura demasiado lejana el camino
aqui.

 

No podemos evitar el hecho de que estos sean, al lado de su misma
naturaleza, conflictos del contrato. Tan bajo estas circunstancias, pienso
que seria prudente para que los disputants conduzcan con la ley del proceso
o del agravio de UDRP, como apropiado. Despues de todos, ICANN no puede y no
se puede esperar regular cada aspecto de esta cosa el nuestros!

 

Gracias

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: jacqueline.morris at gmail.com [mailto:jacqueline.morris at gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Jacqueline Morris
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:31 PM
To: Regional At-Large Structure for Latin America
Subject: [lac-ralo] Fwd: [alac] [Fwd: Re: [icann-board] Registrant-reseller
issues]

 

FYI

Jacqueline

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Annette Muehlberg <annette.muehlberg at web.de>

Date: Jan 23, 2007 2:36 PM

Subject: [alac] [Fwd: Re: [icann-board] Registrant-reseller issues]

To: ALAC <alac at icann.org>

 

 

All,

we, Steve, Vittorio and myself had a short discussion on

registrant-reseller issues

and would like to get your inputs on them - also in respect of

preparing the ICANN meeting in Lisboa.

 

Best wishes

Annette

 

 

> Steve Crocker schrieb:

>> Vittorio and Annette,

>> 

>> Thanks!

>> 

>> I don't have a detailed agenda in mind, and I think you've covered

>> the main ideas. ICANN cannot directly regulate or respond to every

>> detail, so I think it's essential for improvements to come from

>> education and community pressure, not just contracts and

>> enforcement. A balance is needed.

>> 

>> I think the key first step is to identify the things that go wrong

>> and the improvements we'd like to see. Whenever possible, I'd

>> suggest keeping this separate from specific proposals about how to

>> cause those improvements to happen. Once we have a common

>> understanding and consensus on the destination, we can have good

>> discussions about how best to get there. For example, to take the

>> case you have dealt with, an end-user discovered she(?) did not

>> actually have control of the domain name, and I imagine you would

>> like to see such situations reduced or eliminated. Or, perhaps,

>> simply made very clear so the end-user understands the situation

>> and knows what the rules are. That's the "destination." "Routes"

>> to get there might be via contract and enforcement, or might be

>> via large scale education and publicity, or might involve a

>> combination. Or perhaps yet other ideas beyond these two.

>> 

>> I look forward to further interaction.

>> 

>> Since we are discussing here the potential for joint work with the

>> SSAC, I will take the liberty of sending a copy to the SSAC list.

>> 

>> Thanks,

>> 

>> Steve

>> 

>> 

>> Steve Crocker

>> steve at shinkuro.com

>> 

>> Try Shinkuro's collaboration technology. Visit www.shinkuro.com. I

>> am steve!shinkuro.com.

>> 

>> 

>> On Jan 22, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Vittorio Bertola wrote:

>> 

>>> Steve Crocker ha scritto:

>>>> Let me take this opportunity to make you a specific offer.

>>>> Within SSAC we are now looking for opportunities to work

>>>> together with other groups on matters which are of interest to

>>>> the other group and which have a security and/or stability

>>>> component. We are currently working closely with the Root Server

>>>> System Advisory Committee (RSSAC) on a technically complex

>>>> matter of adding IPv6 addresses to the root zone for the root

>>>> servers. This is working out very well, and I am eager to

>>>> partner with other groups. We are quite open to working with the

>>>> ALAC -- or other groups -- in a joint effort to improve the

>>>> safety of the marketplace for registrants. If this is of

>>>> interest, let's lay the groundwork for substantive interaction

>>>> when we're all together in Portugal in March.

>>> 

>>> I have forwarded your offer to the rest of the ALAC, and there is

>>> consensus that it would be good to meet in Lisbon and to discuss

>>> what we could do together, and maybe even prepare the matter

>>> before. I am now copying this message to Annette Muehlberg, who

>>> is the current Chair of the ALAC, so that you might get in touch

>>> and arrange something.

>>> 

>>> I don't know whether you had specific ideas, but perhaps we could

>>> work on a common proposal about things that ICANN could do to

>>> help registrants achieve better protection, ranging from best

>>> practices to new contractual requirements to registrars and

>>> through them to resellers. Perhaps we could start an email loop

>>> among subgroups, or open a specific mailing list, or... what else?

>>> 

>>> Regards,

>>> --vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <--------

>>> --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------

>> 

>> 

 

 

 

 

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