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Le mercredi 12 octobre 2022 à 15:38:51 UTC−5, Claire Craig <claireccraig@gmail.com> a écrit :
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<div><div id="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608"><div><div dir="ltr">I was reminded that the only official ways of submitting our comments is either here on the mail list or on the WiKi page created for that purpose. <div><br clear="none"></div><div>Those who commented on the WhatsApp chat please post your submission in response to the LACRALO statement in either of those channels so that there is an official record. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>CCC</div></div><br clear="none"><div id="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608yqt87083" class="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608yqt7851916194"><div class="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608gmail_attr">On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 at 14:27, Alejandro Pisanty <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">apisanty@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Claire,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I have now made this submission as a personal one.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I do formally request that you record and transmit it as a dissenting input. If any one else adheres please state so.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Yours,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Alejandro Pisanty</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 2:02 PM Alejandro Pisanty <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:apisanty@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">apisanty@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>this statement should not be ratified "as is"; instead, the following (at least) should be submitted: </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>1. the review must be performed including as reviewers parties designated by processes independent of all SO's and AC's. The vetting process through the SO's and AC's in the recent years (since it was instituted) has given rise to more insidership than ever and this in turn has weakened the reviews to the point of making some of them unworkable. The Board must be at freedom to designate external members. </div><div>2. The paragraph on "consideration of how the review reviews AC's and SO's should be omitted. ALL of ICANN should be reviewed with the same level of rigorous evaluation. THAT is what "HOLISTIC" means.</div><div>3. The objectives of the review must include "simplification of all ICANN processes to the utmost achievable level" lest it end up, as the previous ATRT's (we already have three!!), in more bureaucracy and more make-work.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Yours,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Alejandro Pisanty</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 9:54 AM Claire Craig <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:claireccraig@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">claireccraig@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Please review the Draft LACRALO position on the Pilot Holistic Review and provide your comments and feed. It would be appreciated if you can send today as a matter of urgency.<br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608gmail_attr">On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 at 12:16, <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:silvia.vivanco@icann.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">silvia.vivanco@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp1cc3417ayiv0188792608gmail_quote">[[-- Translated text (en -> es) --]]<br clear="none">
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Consulte el documento de Google: <a shape="rect" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/12kNCFCBca63eeAZbgBvvVXNLsFGbOUxzWc229o22gJY/edit" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/12kNCFCBca63eeAZbgBvvVXNLsFGbOUxzWc229o22gJY/edit</a> [<a shape="rect" href="http://docs.google.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">docs.google.com</a>] <<a shape="rect" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/12kNCFCBca63eeAZbgBvvVXNLsFGbOUxzWc229o22gJY/edit__;!!PtGJab4!_J_lDzHTX0_2GLc4My8k5wuVllw5bZkD6zyEZP1sfuhaDnkQtR4cSQzKwiItZCHi7sXu-dU6WgDxQ51N3Ais3jlaa1kbXQ$" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/12kNCFCBca63eeAZbgBvvVXNLsFGbOUxzWc229o22gJY/edit__;!!PtGJab4!_J_lDzHTX0_2GLc4My8k5wuVllw5bZkD6zyEZP1sfuhaDnkQtR4cSQzKwiItZCHi7sXu-dU6WgDxQ51N3Ais3jlaa1kbXQ$</a>> con el borrador de la declaración del ALAC sobre los TOR de revisión holística. Nota: Los comentarios de importancia crítica solo se aceptarán hasta las 23:59 UTC del 11 de octubre de 2022.<br clear="none">
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