[lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: ICANN board nixes “closed generics” in next new round of TLDs

apisan at unam.mx apisan at unam.mx
Thu Jan 25 23:12:00 UTC 2024


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Curiosamente, las propuestas de nuevos gTLD que surgieron y entraron en funcionamiento en nuestra región fueron genéricas (para este propósito, es indiferente si fueron abiertas o cerradas). ¿Está nuestro liderazgo menospreciando a nuestros electores?


 Y, antes de entrar en "eran hombres de negocios", no olvidemos que muchos en esta circunscripción no sólo trabajan en el sector privado sino que también son propietarios de negocios como software, servicios en línea o consultorías, a pesar de su participación nominal no comercial en OBE. asuntos civiles.


 Alejandro Pisanty
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De: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de Lance Hinds <brainstreetceo en gmail.com>
Enviado: miércoles, 24 de enero de 2024 04:16 p. m.
Para: Carlton Samuels
CC: LAC-Discuss-en; CPWG
Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Fwd: ICANN board nixes “closed generics” in next new round of TLDs

Fancy manoeuvrings and nibbling around the edges, but ultimately still a rich man's playground.

Regards

Lance Hinds
Vice Chair

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 5:08 PM Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels en gmail.com<mailto:carlton.samuels en gmail.com>> wrote:
Have a look at his last paragraph.

Hmm.  When is "close enough" to that exclusivity objective good enough, I wonder?

Price restrictions and market manipulation are generally not subject to oversight.  So maybe AA is onto something here.

Making price a barrier to access could pass every test and come out on the other side smelling like a rose.

Carlton

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Jan 23


Applicants will not be able to use generic terms exclusively.

[The words "closed generics" with a circle and slash indicating they are banned]

ICANN's Board of Directors has confirmed that it will not allow so-called "closed generics" in the next round of top level domain name expansion.

Closed generics are generic/dictionary terms that one company wants to own but not offer to the general public. Think Google getting .search and only using it for its own purposes, or Amazon exclusively using .book.

These types of TLDs weren't initially forbidden in the 2012 expansion round but were retroactively banned after applications were received.

In a January 22 letter, Tripti Sinha, Chair of the ICANN's Board of Directors, confirmed<http://domainnamewire.com?action=user_content_redirect&uuid=b22fd54a9601f6ea6ab564726560e848379a2636a00b93f5e77af883cbb3e711&blog_id=2678688&post_id=79209&user_id=197444121&subs_id=9383696&signature=279817fbf17953119efec38bdc203dcd&email_name=new-post&user_email=carlton.samuels@gmail.com&encoded_url=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaWNhbm4ub3JnL2VuL3N5c3RlbS9maWxlcy9jb3JyZXNwb25kZW5jZS9zaW5oYS10by16dWNrLWRpYmlhc2UtMjJqYW4yNC1lbi5wZGY> (pdf) that the board is squashing closed generics in the next round, too.

There was a bit of a loophole in the original ban: companies could continue with their applications as open domains but never launch them. That's the case (so far) with .search and .book, which are still sitting on the shelf. The companies can't exclusively use them but can keep them out of the hands of others.

If they want to use them exclusively, they could also launch them with very high registration prices to keep other users at bay. I wonder if some current owners of unlaunched generic TLDs were hoping for a retroactive reprieve in the upcoming round. Now that that's off the table, they might launch their domains with high prices.

Domain Incite has done an excellent job chronicling<http://domainnamewire.com?action=user_content_redirect&uuid=18b35ba87f17b77eb8fe233b3b37755187d18aa10f7f9754b360303678621b50&blog_id=2678688&post_id=79209&user_id=197444121&subs_id=9383696&signature=00a893ea43e7c60c2d464a177aa5a97e&email_name=new-post&user_email=carlton.samuels@gmail.com&encoded_url=aHR0cHM6Ly9kb21haW5pbmNpdGUuY29tL3RhZy9jbG9zZWQtZ2VuZXJpY3M> the closed generics fight.


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