[lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement

alberto at soto.net.ar alberto at soto.net.ar
Tue Jun 27 13:47:28 UTC 2023


Coincido, es preocupante lo de Laura.
Pero también es preocupante lo siguiente.
La Secretaria de LACRALO, así como las de las otras RALOs, tiene la 
obligación de dejar asentada mensualmente en la wiki, la actividad de la 
RALO. No tenemos historia desde el año 2018
Dejé deje constancia de esto durante la  presidencia de Sergio Salinas 
Porto y Secretaria de Harold Arcos. La respuesta que recibí es que no 
tenían conocimiento sobre el  tema. Pero jamás se corrigió. Somos la 
única Ralo que no tiene historia. Parece un tema sin importancia para el 
liderazgo de LACRALO.
Hubo temas, por ejemplo de presupuesto, que no fueron publicados y por 
ende no aprobados por las ALSs, solo aprobados por el Directorio.
Somos la única RALO que aún no tiene terminado el tema de miembros 
individuales, y esta siendo tratado por el grupo especifico desde hace 
mas de cinco años.
Tampoco tenemos actividades como otras RALOs. Solicito que tengan a  
bien los integrantes del Directorio de LACRALO, que vean los siguientes 
links.
NARALO: https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO
Aquí si buscan los ítems de la última asamblea general, verán 
diferencias sustanciales, La nuestra con un acuerdo de un temario que 
había que aprobar y la de NARALO con una extensa línea de temas a 
discutir y aprobar luego de la discusión.
En este otro link, pueden ver la actividad de EURALO. Inmediatamente  
terminada la última reunión de ICANN 77,convocando a discutir algunos 
temas sumamente importantes. Este tipo de eventos los viene repiiendo 
luego de cada reunión de ICANN.
Por último, me gustaría preguntar que cosa pueden hacer o plantear las   
ALSs  sin tener condicionamientos de la Junta Directiva.
Saldos cordiales

Alberto Soto




El 2023-06-26 23:30, apisan en unam.mx escribió:
> [[-- Translated text (en -> es) --]]
> 
> clara,
> 
> 
>  gracias. La situación preocupante descrita a este respecto por
> nuestra co-miembro Laura Margolis también debe abordarse con urgencia
> y claridad.
> 
> 
>  Alejandro Pisanty
> ________________________________
> 
> De: Claire Craig <claireccraig en gmail.com>
> Enviado: lunes, 26 de junio de 2023 03:32 p. m.
> Para: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
> CC: lac-discuss-en en icann.org
> Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] LAC Strategy for
> Outreach and Engagement
> 
> Dear Dr. Pisanty
> By copy of this email, I'm referring this matter to the wider LACRALO
> Board for a response.
> 
> CCC
> 
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 at 16:40, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
> <apisan en unam.mx<mailto:apisan en unam.mx>> wrote:
> 
> Claire,
> 
> 
> thanks for this communication It remains then the sole responsibility
> of the Board of Directors of LACRALO to resolve the shortcomings of
> the plan as have been pointed out, and, by way of this official
> communication it is to be understood that said Board has renounced the
> asistance the community, with some of its most proven professsionals
> in the field, was ready to offer for the purpose.
> 
> 
> What is the scheduele now for a corrected plan?
> 
> 
> Alejandro Pisanty
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> De: lac-discuss-en
> <lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
> en nombre de Claire Craig
> <claireccraig en gmail.com<mailto:claireccraig en gmail.com>>
> Enviado: lunes, 26 de junio de 2023 01:53 p. m.
> Para: lac-discuss-en en icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en en icann.org>
> Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [lac-discuss-es] LAC Strategy for
> Outreach and Engagement
> 
> Dear Members
> I have been advised that the LACRALO Operating Principles does not
> allow for an ad hoc or permanent working group to be convened to draft
> the Strategy for Outreach and Engagement. Preparation of the Strategic
> Plan is the responsibility of the LACRALO Board of Directors.
> 
> For your convenience and reference, excerpts of the LACRALO Operating
> Principles are presented below:
> 26. The Board of Directors is an organ of LACRALO and shall consist of
> active members and shall be automatically composed by the individuals
> elected to perform the functions of Chair, Vice-chair, Secretary,
> Vice-Secretary, the two representatives elected by LACRALO to ALAC,
> the representative elected to the NOMCOM, and the LACRALO working
> group chairs.
> 28. The purpose of the Board of Directors is to coordinate the LACRALO
> strategy according to its Strategic Plan. and to promote a wider
> participation of LACRALO members.
> 29. The LACRALO chair shall act as the Chair of the Board.
> 
> Please be guided accordingly.
> 
> Claire C. Craig
> LACRALO Secretariat
> 
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 at 13:28,
> <alberto en soto.net.ar<mailto:alberto en soto.net.ar>> wrote:
> [[-- Translated text (es -> en) --]]
> 
> Dear Vanda and Alex, thank you very much, although I would have liked
> to be consulted beforehand. But the leadership of LACRALO has not yet
> given an opinion on this proposal.
>  Kind regards
> 
>  alberto
> 
>  -----Original message-----
>  From:
> lac-discuss-es<lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
> On behalf of vanda en scartezini.org<mailto:vanda en scartezini.org>
>  Sent on: Thursday, June 8, 2023 12:10 PM
>  To: lac-discuss-es en icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es en icann.org>
>  Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for
> Outreach and Engagement
> 
>  [[-- Translated text (en -> es) --]]
> 
>  dear alberto
>  Congratulations. I'm with Alex here. He has been so dedicated to
> LACRALO for years, I believe that he is without a doubt the best
> option for this position. Count on me as always!
>  kisses
>  vanda
> 
>  From:
> lac-discuss-es<lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
> on behalf of Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
> Baruch<apisan en unam.mx<mailto:apisan en unam.mx>>
>  Date: Thursday, June 8, 2023 12:27 AM
>  To: Laura Margolis<margolisl en gmail.com<mailto:margolisl en gmail.com>> ,
> Claire Craig<claireccraig en gmail.com<mailto:claireccraig en gmail.com>>
>  Cc:
> LAC-Discuss-en<lac-discuss-en en icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en en icann.org>>
> , Augustus Ho<aho en usma.ac.pa<mailto:aho en usma.ac.pa>>
>  Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Disclosure and 
> Participation
> 
>  Hello,
> 
> 
> 
>  Given that the revised plan did not incorporate the planning
> technique and only absorbed some actions related to "discrediting" (I
> think it should discredit) ALSes, Laura's motion seems worthy of
> consideration.
> 
> 
> 
>  I propose that Alberto Soto be appointed Convener of a Permanent
> Working Group on Planning and receive all possible support from the
> community. His proven professional experience over decades and his
> previous contributions to LACRALO planning are a strong guarantee
> that, if properly supported, this work can produce good results.
> 
> 
> 
>  I have not consulted it before making this proposal.
> 
> 
> 
>  Alejandro Pisanty
>  ________________________________
> 
>  From:
> lac-discuss-en<lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces en atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
> on behalf of Laura
> Margolis<margolisl en gmail.com<mailto:margolisl en gmail.com>>
>  Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 07:34 pm
>  To: Claire Craig
>  CC: LAC-Discuss-in; Augustus Ho
>  Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement
> 
>  Dear Claire,
> 
>  Thank you for your hard work.
> 
>  I think we should create a group to work on this topic, as a region.
> 
>  See you soon in DC.
> 
>  Best,
> 
>  Laura Margolis
> 
> 
> 
>  On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 9:06 PM, Claire Craig (
> <claireccraig en gmail.com<mailto:claireccraig en gmail.com><mailto:claireccraig en gmail.com<mailto:claireccraig en gmail.com>>
> >) wrote:
>  Dear All
>  Having received no further input at 23:00 UTC today, the attached
> LACRALO Outreach and Engagement 2023 (FY23/FY24) Plan is considered
> final.
> 
>  By copy of this email, the plan is sent to ICANN GSE staff for 
> approval.
> 
>  Please be guided accordingly.
> 
>  Claire C Craig
>  LACRALO Secretariat
> 
> 
> 
>  On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 at 13:50, Carlton Samuels
> <carlton.samuels en gmail.com<mailto:carlton.samuels en gmail.com><mailto:carlton.samuels en gmail.com<mailto:carlton.samuels en gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
>  I offer some further clarity and context to Dev's information.
> 
>  Some of the territories named by Dev are still in colonial ties to
> Europe and usually counted as political entities of the metropolitan
> power; count the Dutch territories of Bonaire, St. Eustatius and Saba
> and St. Maarten and the French territories of Saint Martin and Saint
> Barthelemy. Any ALS developed would likely be EURALO-affiliated but
> may decide - as is the case with Martinique - to caucus with LACRALO.
> We in the Caribbean actively encourage such associations.
> 
>  We have exploited connections to the telco and tertiary education
> sectors plus regulators to advance the ICANN agenda across CARICOM.
> The Caribbean Internet Governance Forum (CIGF) has been a principal
> vehicle for enabling these connections. CROPP outreach to Suriname has
> resulted in an ISOC chapter but not an ALS to date.
> 
>  Outreach to the Bahamas, Dominica and Belize has resulted in active
> participation in the ccNSO; We know the individuals and they caucus
> with the Caribbean-in-ICANN grouping. Following the Caribbean
> engagement model, it is likely any ALS developed in those
> jurisdictions will have to be booted by folks from government,
> academia and the telecommunications sectors that are already engaged
> and knowledgeable about ICANN.
> 
>  We have gone to Guatemala City's Francisco Marroquin University - as
> part of a [Microsoft] Partners in Learning initiative - but used the
> opportunity to promote the ICANN agenda to the ICT leadership there.
> If memory serves there was a successful fellowship application from
> there. I'm less aware of what has transpired since then.
> 
>  carlton samuels
> 
>  ===============================
>  Carlton A. Samuels
>  Mobile: 876-818-1799
>  Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround
> ==============================
> 
> 
>  On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 10:53, Dev Anand Teelucksingh
> <devtee en gmail.com<mailto:devtee en gmail.com><mailto:devtee en gmail.com<mailto:devtee en gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
>  Dear Claire,
> 
>  According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST),
> there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large
> Structures. These are:
> 
>  Antigua and Barbuda (.ag)
>  Bahamas (.bs)
>  Belize (.bz)
>  Bonaire, St Eustatius and Saba (.bq)
>  The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm)
>  Grenada (.gd)
>  Guatemala (.gt)
>  Saint Barthelemy (.bl)
>  Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn)
>  Saint Martin (French part) (.mf)
>  Saint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx)
>  Republic of Suriname (.sr)
> 
>  Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organizations
> in these 12 countries to join At-Large.
> 
>  Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could
> be used for such outreach.
>  However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says "1.
> Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO
> leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about
> the opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP.
>  2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program.
>  3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the
> application process:
> https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+Program+%28CROP%29-FY23
>  4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same
> CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to
> vote on the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP
> slot"
> 
> 
>  This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a
> successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to
> submit and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the
> outreach event.
> 
>  Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the
> LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in
> the subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if people
> from the subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the
> wider LACRALO.
> 
> 
>  Kind Regards,
> 
>  Dev Anand Teelucksingh
>  Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig
> <claireccraig en gmail.com<mailto:claireccraig en gmail.com><mailto:claireccraig en gmail.com<mailto:claireccraig en gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
>  Dear All
>  Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which
> was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call.
> 
>  Please provide your comments by Wednesday June 7, 2023 so that it can
> be approved for FY 24. If no comments are received, the plan would be
> considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff,
> 
>  I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible.
> 
>  Claire C Craig
>  LACRALO Secretariat
> 
> 
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