[lac-discuss-es] Reflexiones sobre la ELA criterios y expectativas Taskforce
alan.greenberg en mcgill.ca
alan.greenberg en mcgill.ca
Dom Ago 9 01:23:09 UTC 2015
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Asunto: Re: Reflexiones sobre la ELA criterios y expectativas Taskforce
De: alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Al 08.08.2015 18:36, Evan Leibovitch escribió:
> El 8 de agosto de 2015 09:37, Olivier MJ
> Crepin-Leblond < <mailto:ocl at gih.com> ocl at gih.com> escribió:
>
> > 3. The latter ones come to meetings, perhaps attend some meetings,
> > enjoy the local offerings, and go home and forget about us until the
> > next trip. THOSE are the ones that I have a real problem with.
>
>And unfortunately whenever the time comes for having face to face
>meetings, we treat those people the same way as we treat the people who
>genuinely want to get involved.
>
>
>So long as At-Large leadership is selected
>bottom-up by a reasonably democratic process, it
>will not always include the "hardest workers".
>Politics of various sorts can happen in any
>region, and it is not a stretch to say that
>"number of hours spent on ICANN in the past" can
>often be ​rended insignificant in an election
>campaign next to social skills, global geopolitics or other factors.
>
>Somebody may be elected based on nothing more
>than a promise to vote a certain way on ALAC
>statements or to advance a very specific agenda
>on a narrow range of issues. How do you confront
>that without threatening the democratic process?
>
>The easy answer is to ask ICANN for more travel
>spots as Olivier suggests, so that (as one
>possible example) working group chairs (which
>are usually in their posts by merit rather than
>politics because of the workload). Well, that's
>an easy answer for us -- to the rest of ICANN's
>constituencies, most of which already take
>At-Large to be a charity case, this will be a tough sell.
caer en todas las categorías, los que caen en Tahat
categoría 3 sobre una base regular debe ser tratado
con directamente, y los otros tenemos poco
más remedio que aceptar. Al menos durante su primer
término. Una de las preocupaciones más profundas y los que me he centrado en
al contestar eran aquellos para los que apoyamos como representantes de ELA.
> (Por otra parte, la ICANN podría si elige ayudar
> At-Large vistazo a la participación exterior
> Patrocinio - sin embargo, no está dispuesto o no, para hacerlo).
>
> En fin ... cuando yo era más profundamente
> Involucrado en At-Large, me resistí e incluso
> Menospreciado los diversos intentos de empujar, prod,
> Medir y nos silo.La mayoría de estos esfuerzos
> Merecemos continuar el ridículo, porque ellos permanecen
> gran medida ejercicios mirarse el ombligo, que son más
> Eficaz en la distracción y el tiempo de la quema que cualquier otra cosa.
>
> OMI, hay tres necesidades generales de At-Large:
> * How do we make ICANN and its dilemmas more
> accessible to the global public?
> * How can we best determine what is important to that public?
> * How can we best advance those priorities
> within ICANN without being marginalized?
para hacer que el ELA estructura / RALO, o reducir
su visibilidad y su costo. Así las cosas, es a la vez
caro (no necesariamente en dinero, sino en el tiempo
y enfocar) y nos abre a una fuerte (y en ocasiones válida la crítica)
> Todo lo que hacemos debe servir uno de los
> Necesidades. Esto significa responder con franqueza:
>
> ¿Quién tiene que hacer lo que en las reuniones F2F?
> (Maybe some of our most important travel is NOT to ICANN meetings?)
>
>How are we engaging with the public outside ICANN?
> (If CROPP is as good as it gets let's not even bother)
>
>What staff support do we need in research and communications?
> (Can we get stats and opinion polls to back our policy actions?)
>
>How do we mobilize pubic opinion?
> (First, we get the public to care)
>
>Wringing our collective hands over how to deal
>with laggards and tourists -- who happen to be
>popular enough to get elected -- pre-occupied
>ALAC before I got involved, and it continues to
>suck energy out of addressing the real reason
>the At-Large community even exists.
>
>​Meanwhile, the other parts of ICANN that
>prefer At-Large weak and ineffectual, delight in our tail-chasing.
>​
>- Evan
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