[IDN-WG] IDN Variant TLD Program ­ Procedure to Develop and Maintain the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone in Respect of IDNA Labels ­ Second Public Comment Draft

[Rinalia Abdul Rahim]

Hi, everyone.

I agree with Edmon's initial thoughts and would add the following:

1. Thank the team for incorporating some of our suggestions - (agreed)
2. Highlight the finding that more policy work may need to be done beyond
this project, and call for the community to start the work - (to add value
we should try to be as clear as possible about what aspect of the work
belongs in the policy domain)
3. Highlight the finding that parts of the IDN Variant TLD decisions remain
in the poilcy realm (i.e. not just technical) - (same as above)
4. Escalate the issue of lack of review process for the proposed mechanism
- (I think we need to trigger a discussion at ALAC level on this matter
immediately because it is a governance issue and has high stakes involved
(i.e., root security and stability, transparency and accountability of
process, etc).  Early feedback from the ALAC will help us refine the
statement content accordingly  - I will trigger this process at the ALAC
level and request that Edmon as IDN Policy Liaison to guide the discussion)
5. Reiterate the need for policy oversight & the participation of affected
linguistic communities in the process - (agreed, but we should clarify the
preferred governance arrangements on policy oversight with strong
argumentation/examples).

I would also add item (6) below:
6. Request the Variant Program Team to clarify exactly what other ICANN
procedures are involved  in relation to the LGR process and possibly an
estimated timeline.  We know that there are other components of the Variant
Program.  It would be good to know which and when components come into
play, in what combination, sequence, etc.

Extract from doc that explains why I would add item (6): "The mechanism is
not the last stage in making determinations about IDN labels for the root.
Rather, its output is to be consumed by other ICANN procedures that
actually determine whether a particular label is allocated to someone, and
whether it is delegated in the root."

I'm happy to work with Edmon on the draft statement and urge other IDN WG
members to share thoughts/provide input as early as possible.

Best regards,

Rinalia

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon at isoc.hk> wrote:

> Will discuss with Rinalia and get something drafted.
>
> My initial thoughts are:
> 1. Thank the team for incorporating some of our suggestions
> 2. Highlight the finding that more policy work may need to be done beyond
> this project, and call for the community to start the work
> 3. Highlight the finding that parts of the IDN Variant TLD decisions
> remain in the poilcy realm (i.e. not just technical)
> 4. Escalate the issue of lack of review process for the proposed mechanism
> 5. Reiterate the need for policy oversight & the participation of affected
> linguistic communities in the process
>
> Meanwhile, if anyone has any thoughts, please send them through here.
>
> Edmon
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: idn-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:
> idn-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Matt Ashtiani
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:27 AM
> To: Edmon Chung
> Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] IDN Variant TLD Program  Procedure to Develop and
> Maintain the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone in Respect of IDNA
> Labels  Second Public Comment Draft
>
> Dear Edmon,
>
> I am just following up on my email below. Can you please advise if you
> will be writing a Statement on the At-Large IDN Variant TLD Program –
> Procedure to Develop <https://community.icann.org/x/7YxEAg>
> and Maintain the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone in Respect of
> IDNA Labels – Second Public Comment Draft Workspace<
> https://community.icann.org/x/7YxEAg>? If so, when do you intend to
> submit it?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Matt Ashtiani
>
> Policy Specialist
>
> ICANN
>
> 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
>
> Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 USA
>
> From: Matt Ashtiani <matt.ashtiani at icann.org<mailto:
> matt.ashtiani at icann.org>>
> Date: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:04 AM
> To: Edmon Chung <edmon at registry.asia<mailto:edmon at registry.asia>>
> Cc: "idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org>"
> <idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>,
> Rinalia Abdul Rahim <rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com<mailto:
> rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com>>, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>>, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org
> <mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>>
> Subject: IDN Variant TLD Program ­ Procedure to Develop and Maintain the
> Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone in Respect of IDNA Labels ­ Second
> Public Comment Draft
>
> Dear Edmon,
>
> Please note that a new PC regarding IDN Variants has been opened. Can you
> please advise if you will be writing a Statement on the At-Large IDN
> Variant TLD Program – Procedure to Develop <
> https://community.icann.org/x/7YxEAg>
> and Maintain the Label Generation Rules for the Root Zone in Respect of
> IDNA Labels – Second Public Comment Draft Workspace<
> https://community.icann.org/x/7YxEAg>? If so, when do you intend to
> submit it?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Matt Ashtiani
>
> Policy Specialist
>
> ICANN
>
> 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300
>
> Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 USA
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