[IDN-WG] [ALAC] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN Fast Track Process

Cheryl Langdon-Orr langdonorr at gmail.com
Sun Jul 5 02:54:14 CDT 2009


Agreed we need something simple pithy and concise building on all our
previous work/ statements...  I endorse Hong's bullet point
proposal/approach...
CLO

2009/7/5 Vanda Scartezini <vanda at uol.com.br>

> I consider that Hong thoughts are very clear, we could use the ideas to
> improve Siva 's paper.
>
>
>
> Vanda Scartezini
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> From: Hong Xue [mailto:hongxueipr at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 12:43 AM
> To: Vanda Scartezini
> Cc: ICANN AtLarge Staff; idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org; At-Large
> Worldwide
> Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN
> Fast
> Track Process
>
>
>
>
> Thanks, Vanda and other friends! I've posted my comments on the wiki.
>
> I believe that a simple, clear and strong statement (in bulletin points)
> would effectively get our message out. I don't believe the Board would have
> the patience to read through the analysis.
>
> Here are my personal comments:
>
> a) Fast-track IDN ccTLDs must be implemented as planned, i.e. in Q4 of 2009
> as the latest, to meet the "pressing need" of non-ASCII user community;
>
> b) Any implementation plan must strictly observe the IDN Guidelines and IDN
> tables reserved at the ICANN. Any ignorance on variant character set would
> cause serious user confusion. The present draft policy on variants would
> seriously pledge the non-ASCII users, particularly in Chinese, Japanese and
> Korean community, by distorting their character usage. If the present
> policy
> equals ASCII TLD variants in either capital letters or low-case letters,
> non-ASCII users should have the equal right to use the variant scripts in
> the relevant fast-track IDN ccTLDs.
>
> c) The cost estimated for the processing of each new IDN ccTLD request is
> prohibitively high. The financial barrier for IDN ccTLD managers especially
> from developing countries would widen the digital divide and be against the
> ICANN's social responsibility.
>
>
> Hong
>
>
> --
> Hong Xue, Ph.D.
> Professor of Law
> Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law
> Beijing Normal University
> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street
> Beijing 100875 China
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Vanda Scartezini <vanda at uol.com.br> wrote:
>
> Hi Hong
>  I believe, besides your personal comment, would be good to add your ideas
> to this discussion Siva compiled to aggregate your ideas into our paper.
> kisses
>
> Vanda Scartezini
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: idn-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:idn-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Hong Xue
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 6:50 AM
> To: Nick Ashton-Hart
> Cc: ICANN AtLarge Staff; idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org; ALAC Working List
> Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN
> Fast
> Track Process
>
> Hi, Nick, my last email was actually based on my reading of that draft on
> the wiki. Basically I feel it is difficult to understand it. But if it is
> the outcome of a long discussion within ALAC, I guess I'd better be quiet
> and send in my comment as an individual.
>
> Hong
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <
> nick.ashton-hart at icann.org
> > wrote:
>
> > Dear Hong:
> >
> > FYI, as you will see on the At-Large Policy Advice Development calendar
> at
> >  http://www.atlarge.icann.org/policycalendar, the draft statement
> composed
> > by Siva is now available for At-Large comment at
> >
>
> https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?comment_on_draft_implementation_pla
> <
> https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?comment_on_draft_implementation_pl
> a%0An_for_idn_cctld_fast_track_process_revision_3>
> n_for_idn_cctld_fast_track_process_revision_3.
> > This was announced last week in case anyone missed it.
> >
> > Comments on the draft will continue to be taken until 7th July. May I
> > encourage you to visit the above URL and leave any further comments as
> well
> > as the one below? I'm sure that your comments will be very valuable,
> > especially considering your long tenure as the previous IDN Liaison for
> > ALAC.
> >
> > Hong Xue wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Since the deadline has passed, I'm not making any new suggestion but do
> >> concern what has been deleted from the original DIP, such as contracts
> and
> >> financial contribution. I wonder whether these parts will be subject to
> >> separate documents or "gentleman's agreement".
> >>
> >> Also, I hope the whole discussions could be on the public list. It is
> >> difficult for the community to follow the sporadic announcements from
> time
> >> to time.
> >>
> >> Hong
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart <
> >> nick.ashton-hart at icann.org <mailto:nick.ashton-hart at icann.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>    Dear All:
> >>
> >>    To add to the schedule below one final point, a draft ALAC
> >>    Statement on the v3 Fast Track proposal is due on the 26th
> >>    (today), so that it can be posted for At-Large community comment.
> >>
> >>    Separately, in addition to the PDF clean text which Siva has
> >>    referenced, there is a redline text available at
> >>
> >>
>
> http://www.icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cctl
> <
> http://www.icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cct
> l%0Ad-redline-29may09-en.pdf>
> d-redline-29may09-en.pdf
> >> .
> >>    This shows the differences between v2, which the ALAC commented
> >>    on, and the present text; for those familiar with the previous
> >>    version, looking at the redline text should make it much easier to
> >>    decide what At-Large should say about v3, since only parts of the
> >>    text have changed.
> >>
> >>    There are versions in the six UN languages:
> >>
> >>    Espanol:
> >>
> >>
>
> http://www.icann.org/es/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cctl
> <
> http://www.icann.org/es/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cct
> l%0Ad-redline-29may09-es.pdf>
> d-redline-29may09-es.pdf
> >>    Francais:
> >>
> >>
>
> http://www.icann.org/fr/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cctl
> <
> http://www.icann.org/fr/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cct
> l%0Ad-redline-29may09-fr.pdf>
> d-redline-29may09-fr.pdf
> >>
> >>    The others may all be found from
> >>    http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-31may09-en.htm
> >>
> >>    Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
> >>
> >>        Hello
> >>
> >>        The third revision of the Draft Implementation Plan is at page
> >>
> >>
>
> http://icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cctld-cl
> <
> http://icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cctld-c
> l%0Aean-29may09-en.pdfwhich>
> ean-29may09-en.pdfwhich
> >>        is also attached as a PDF here. As per schedule ICANN public
> >>        consultation closes on 15th July. ALAC consultation on this
> >>        topic would open
> >>        on 30th June and closes on 7th July, based on which a final
> >>        draft is to be
> >>        preapred and posted for voting on 9th. Voting would close on
> >>        14th on the
> >>        ALAC submission.
> >>
> >>        Please go through the attached PDF with specific consideration
> >>        to the
> >>        following:
> >>
> >>        1.  Page 25 - 29 Process Overview and the detailed flowcharts-
> >>        are there any
> >>        comments about the process as outlined?
> >>
> >>        2.  3.4 Technical String Criteria :  Should Alac recommend
> >>        relaxation on the
> >>        number of characters required? Is this a technical issue or a
> >>        socio-political issue? What would be alac's position on this?
> >>
> >>        3. 5.5 contentin issues
> >>
> >>        4. 5.6 Processing of a Fast Track issue
> >>
> >>        5. 6.3 US Government Authorization: is this within the purview
> >>        of alac to
> >>        comment in the context of IDNs.
> >>
> >>        6. Are there specific IDN points from the various constituency
> >>        sessions of
> >>        other constituencies that alac is in agreement with, that may
> >>        be featured as
> >>        points agreed, in the alac draft comment?
> >>
> >>        I also wish to submit to alac and the IDN Working Group to
> >>        consider the fact
> >>        that the fast track process has taken a long time, during
> >>        which there have
> >>        been positive developmens on the technical and process
> >>        readiness on the part
> >>        of ICANN to implement IDN's, so is there a need to imply a
> delayed
> >>        implementation of the gTLD process? Would alac like to
> >>        consider being
> >>        equally concerned about ccTLDs and gTLDs?
> >>
> >>        And is there anything that requires caution on the path
> >>        towards implentation
> >>        of IDNs? There was some opinion that DNS stability takes
> >>        precedence over the
> >>        fast track process. Is there any such contrary opinion and are
> >>        these
> >>        opinions have any validity?
> >>
> >>        To truly fast track the IDN process, I wish to propose to alac
> >>        to propose to
> >>        ICANN that an "IDN Day" be organized, either for one full day
> >>        preceeding the
> >>        ICANN meeting to bring together the constituencies concerned
> >>        to focussed
> >>        sessions on security, legal and commericial issues, all
> >>        related to IDN's. If
> >>        an additional day is not possible, a relatively light day such
> >>        as a Thrusday
> >>        could be dedicated for discussions on IDNs for ICANN to come
> >>        to a conclusive
> >>        position on IDNs and truly fast track the implementation process.
> >>
> >>        Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
> >>        Blog: http://isocmadras.blogspot.com
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>    Nick Ashton-Hart
> >>
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> >
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