[EURO-Discuss] EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 175, Issue 18

Natalia Filina filinafilka at gmail.com
Sun May 16 23:19:15 UTC 2021


Dear Professor Erich SCHWEIGHOFER,

You are a very interesting conversationalist and I am very much impressed
by your deep knowledge of history and passion for the search for truth. I
would like to have the same skills and the same depth of knowledge, but
there are thousands of books and materials ahead that I have to study.
Thank you for this email, unindifference, fairness and history of your
family you touched.


I've seen your subsequent emails. I very much appreciated getting useful
information, for the analysis and criticism of my work.
It is very important to make the right emphasis before the new round of
elections for any member of EURALO who will be ready and will take the
EURALO Secretary position.

The voices and opinions of the members related to community work make
EURALO better. For example, you mention the needs of legal knowledge or law
degree for the Secretary position - that may or have to be discussed for
sure.


I wish you a good start of the week!


Sincerely,
Natalia Filina

Secretary of EURALO
https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo

Officer of SIG IoT (ISOC)
*http://iotsig.org/main <http://iotsig.org/main>*/



+7 906 722 54 61
Moscow, Russian Federation



пт, 14 мая 2021 г. в 09:04, SCHWEIGHOFER Erich Prof. Dr. Dr.. <
erich.schweighofer at univie.ac.at>:

> Dear Natalia,
>
> thanks for this message. I need some time to draft a response
> proportionate and respecting the Russian love for words, poems and
> literature.
>
> Yesterday,  I have seen again the excellent movie "Doctor Zhivago",
> catching the enormous failures of the Russian elite before 1914, the
> similar bad solution of the Communists and the still ongoing and painful
> steps of ending the 20th century for the Russian Federation. Hopefully it
> will succeed and we can all be proud of our mother- and fatherlands,
> respecting achievements and not forgetting failures, and seeing the human
> case as the main issue that counts.
> I say this as Austrian noting shamefully the start of this catastrophe in
> Bad Ischl in July 1914 by our then Emperor, King, Archduke, Count etc. etc.
> Franz Josef I KG (annulled 1915). He was old but sufficiently powerful to
> have stopped the crazy discussions between Berlin and Wien bureaucrats
> (mostly aristocrats) to make an end to the Serbian nuisance. How stupid
> ...
>
> In ICANN, we accept people as they are - for the technical governance of
> the internet, regardless of regime, respect of human rights, etc. etc. That
> is a fine compromise because the world - and ICANN is added the digital
> element - is for all. Thus, we provide infrastructure for freedom but also
> surveillance. We are aware of that - digital infrastructure is like air,
> space, water, climate, nature ... to be shared by all, regardless of war.
>
> In the broader internet governance (often called cyberspace governance),
> the fight for the best regime goes on and that is good, so, if done with
> peaceful means and respecting people's wishes.
>
> Sure, I respect the ICANN code as a necessary compromise - and apologize
> if I overreacted a bit, as an Austrian with father and uncles having served
> in a bad cause, costing them 6 years of they youth and highly painful
> moments later as part of a criminal regime, not being allowed to be proud
> of best service for the country.
>
> Best regards,
> Erich
>
> P.S. My comment on the legal work of EURALO will follow in a different
> posting; I see some shortcomings, here (@SeB).
>
>
>
> SCHWEIGHOFER Erich                       ao. Univ.-Prof. Mag. rer.soc.oec.
> Dr. iur. Dr. rer.soc.oec.            (freigestellt für die Europäische
> Kommission,
> Rue de la Loi 130, 1040 Brussel BE, erich.schweighofer at ec.europa.eu, Tel.
> (Skype) +32 2 29 52283)    Rechtsinformatik an der Uni-Wien
> RI at uni.wien        ARI Arbeitsgruppe Rechtsinformatik, Juridicum,
> Universität Wien  Vorsitz: iris-conferences.eu   VölkerR at IRI§    EuR at IRI§
> Präsident:      WZRI    LII-Austria     CEILI    RI@    ADRI
> Institut für Europarecht, Internationales Recht und Rechtsvergleichung
> (auch Abteilung für Internationales Recht)
> Schottenbastei 10-16/2/5, 1010 Wien AT, Tel. +43 1 4277 35305
> (Anrufbeantworter)
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> https://iris-conferences.eu, https://wzri.eu
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> rechtsinformatik at univie.ac.at; Erich.Schweighofer at univie.ac.at
>
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> ________________________________________
> Von: Natalia Filina [filinafilka at gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Mai 2021 10:32
> An: Discussion for At-Large Europe; SCHWEIGHOFER Erich Prof. Dr. Dr..
> Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff; Sebastien Bachollet
> Betreff: Re: EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 175, Issue 18
>
> Dear Professor Erich SCHWEIGHOFER,
>
> I have only 5 comments for this discussion (and I hope we stop wasting the
> precious time of the EURALO community):
>
> 1. My full name, the name of the current EURALO Secretary is Natalia
> Filina. I kindly ask you to refuse from using the abbreviation N.F. in the
> correspondence, which I also read. This is completely inappropriate.
>
> 2. Since my name is mentioned in this thread, I kindly ask you to exclude
> in this correspondence any mention of my personal interests, my love for my
> Motherland - Russia, your supposition about my worldviews and political
> preferences. Any hypotheses you make are purely subjective. And more
> important - we follow the working agenda here, and we have created mailing
> list subscriptions for this working purpose.
>
> 3. I also ask you to abstain from advising me on what and how I can or
> cannot celebrate, how I should or should not show my attitude to my country
> and my government, to EU sanctions you mentioned.
> The ICANN agenda does not contain or support discussions on political
> topics, especially political conflicts. In my point of view it is an
> alarming dangerous line we should avoid and we should avoid destroying our
> working relationship and working processes.
>
> 4. Thank you for your assessment of the quality and effectiveness of my
> work as EURALO Secretary. Feedback is always important for me and I use
> this information to improve any processes. Yes, we all may express
> transparently our attitude to the work achievements (or lack thereof) of
> EURALO members by voting and making any comments on the work topics.
>
> 5.  I am always happy to see you on my own and in At-Large/EURALO social
> networks, respectful and correct comments are always welcome. Moreover, I
> pay about 80% of my time there to spread the information about our ICANN,
> EURALO, Youth IGF and IG activities. I will be so glad to see your messages
> under these posts too and hope you will help to improve our work there.
>
> And I would like to mention here:
> my work in multicultural and multinational IG organizations has given me
> an amazing opportunity to enrich myself by learning and RESPECTING the
> diversity and amazing charm of cultures and traditions of different
> countries, peoples, and nationalities. It is a great gift and even more -
> my privilege, my happiness and pleasure to work and communicate with such
> amazing, intelligent, educated people from around the world.
> Every day I learn something new and I grow and try to make my humble
> contribution to the prosperity of Euralo and At-Large.
>
> But sometimes (very much rarely) I learn what kind of rhetoric and what
> actions are not acceptable, not politically correct. These are also
> important and good lessons too.
>
>
>
> Большое Спасибо!
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Natalia Filina
>
> Secretary of EURALO
> https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo
>
> Officer of SIG IoT (ISOC)
> http://iotsig.org/main/
>
> Co-coordinator  of Youth IGF Russia
> https://www.facebook.com/youthigfRU
>
>
> +7 906 722 54 61
> Moscow, Russian Federation
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> чт, 13 мая 2021 г. в 04:40, <euro-discuss-request at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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>    1. Re: EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 175, Issue 14
>       (SCHWEIGHOFER Erich Prof. Dr. Dr..)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "SCHWEIGHOFER Erich Prof. Dr. Dr.." <erich.schweighofer at univie.ac.at
> <mailto:erich.schweighofer at univie.ac.at>>
> To: Natalia Filina <filinafilka at gmail.com<mailto:filinafilka at gmail.com>>,
> Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> <mailto:euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>, sandra hoferichter <
> info at hoferichter.eu<mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 01:39:57 +0000
> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 175, Issue 14
> Dear EURALO members,
>
> it is always better to solve questions in small groups. The present EURALO
> leadership seems not be able to do that. Sad ...
>
> Someone - not disclosed yet - has submitted a complaint with the ICANN
> Ombudsman. Welcome to a serious dispute ... and learn about history, also
> in Eastern Bundesländer, where the land belongs to the Red Barons.
>
> War crimes should never be forgotten and celebrating victory without
> reference to war crimes is not acceptable. Not much is asked for - a
> reference that this was wrong, it is forgiven but not forgotten.
> Human suffering is individual and personal and should be remembered,
> always, in combination with the usual history about battles, fights ... the
> usual history by governments, generals and their supporters.
>
> Yours truly,
> Erich Schweighofer
>
>
> SCHWEIGHOFER Erich                       ao. Univ.-Prof. Mag. rer.soc.oec.
> Dr. iur. Dr. rer.soc.oec.            (freigestellt für die Europäische
> Kommission,
> Rue de la Loi 130, 1040 Brussel BE, erich.schweighofer at ec.europa.eu
> <mailto:erich.schweighofer at ec.europa.eu>, Tel. (Skype) +32 2 29 52283)
> Rechtsinformatik an der Uni-Wien
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> ________________________________________
> Von: EURO-Discuss [euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:
> euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>] im Auftrag von Natalia
> Filina via EURO-Discuss [euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:
> euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Mai 2021 22:46
> An: Discussion for At-Large Europe; sandra hoferichter
> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 175, Issue 14
>
> Dear Sandra,
>
> thank you for your support and kind words about my work in EURALO.
> I need to learn a lot to become better in any official (or without)
> position in EURALO, At-Large and I 've got the opportunity to learn from
> such awesome people around, to learn from you.
>
>
>
> Best,
> Natalia Filina
>
> Moscow, Russia
> [
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>
>
>
>
> вт, 11 мая 2021 г. в 14:49, <euro-discuss-request at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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>    1. Re: RECORDED / EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 175, Issue 9
>       (Wolfgang Kleinw?chter)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Wolfgang Kleinwächter" <wolfgang at kleinwaechter.info<mailto:
> wolfgang at kleinwaechter.info><mailto:wolfgang at kleinwaechter.info<mailto:
> wolfgang at kleinwaechter.info>>>
> To: Yesim Nazlar <yesim.nazlar at icann.org<mailto:yesim.nazlar at icann.org
> ><mailto:yesim.nazlar at icann.org<mailto:yesim.nazlar at icann.org>>>, Yesim
> Nazlar via EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:
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> Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 13:22:45 +0200 (CEST)
> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 175, Issue
> 9
> Natalia has my full supoport.
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
> Yesim Nazlar via EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> <mailto:euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org><mailto:
> euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:
> euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>> hat am 11.05.2021 12:43
> geschrieben:
>
>
> Dear Natalia,
>
> Thank you for your e-mail.
>
> Your nomination acceptance is recorded. As the next step,
>
>
>   1.  Please kindly update your SOI page<
> https://community.icann.org/x/JgS8B>
>   2.  Send a brief statement explaining why you believe you are a suitable
> candidate
>
>
> Thank you.
> Kind Regards,
> Yeşim Nazlar
>
>
> From: EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:
> euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org><mailto:
> euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:
> euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>> on behalf of Natalia
> Filina via EURO-Discuss <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:
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> Reply-To: Natalia Filina <filinafilka at gmail.com<mailto:
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> Date: 11 May 2021 Tuesday 12:18
> To: Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 175, Issue 9
>
> Dear Sebastian,
> I very appreciate your trust, support and I accept the nomination.
>
> And I thank my colleagues and mentors who provide opinions about my work.
> It is very important for me!
>
>
>
>
> Best,
> Natalia Filina
>
> Moscow, Russia
> [Image removed by sender.]
>
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>    1. Re: 2021 EURALO Regional Selections (Secretariat)
>       (Sebicann Bachollet)
>    2. Re: 2021 EURALO Regional Selections (Secretariat)
>       (sandra hoferichter)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sebicann Bachollet <sebicann at bachollet.fr<mailto:
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> To: Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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> Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 10:31:39 +0200
> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] 2021 EURALO Regional Selections (Secretariat)
> Hello all the readers of this list,
> I would like to ask you to refrain from any follow-up on this thread.
> We are « just » at this moment asking for nomination for various positions
> (ALAC, NomCom, Chair et secretary of EURALO).
> Nomination are open until 21st of May 2021.
> Thanks
> All the best
> SeB
>
> Sébastien Bachollet
> +33 6 07 66 89 33
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> @SebBach
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> EURALO Chair
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>
>
>
> Le 11 mai 2021 à 10:18, Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com
> <mailto:roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com><mailto:roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com
> <mailto:roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>>> a écrit :
>
> I am not on FB, so I have asked my wife to check.
>
> I have two comments:
>
>   *   nowhere in her post does the word “Communist” appear, she is talking
> about the Red Army
>   *   I have worked for many years at a UN Agency where there were many
> Russians and former USSR citizens - none of them was communist, quite the
> contrary - and every year they organised at the UN premises a big party, to
> which a multicultural, multiethnic, and in all ways diverse crowd joyfully
> participated
>
> Talking to the former USSR people, none of which was discounting or
> negating the crimes perpetrated, I learned that for them the end of a war
> that has caused 25M deaths - according to the most conservative estimates -
> out of which at least 17M civilians - was something to celebrate forever.
> And I ended up in agreeing with them - it’s something rooted in the Russian
> people, and has little relationship with a political stance.
>
> So, in summary, while I appreciate Erich pointing out this fact - it is
> always good to do background checking - I don’t think that making a post in
> celebration of the 9 May Victory Day is something that is out of order or
> that in any way requires further action.
>
> Cheers,
> Roberto
>
>
>
> On 11.05.2021, at 08:58, SCHWEIGHOFER Erich Prof. Dr. Dr.. <
> erich.schweighofer at univie.ac.at<mailto:erich.schweighofer at univie.ac.at
> ><mailto:erich.schweighofer at univie.ac.at<mailto:
> erich.schweighofer at univie.ac.at>>> wrote:
>
> I think that the N.F. has done a good job, promoting topics and those she
> considers important. As secretary, she has the discretion to do that, in
> co-operation with the Chair.
>
> As a former NomCom member, I do a routine job on checking details.
> Here, I am worried that she shows - on her face book account - great
> enthusiasm about the great victory of the Communists in the 2nd World War
> without mentioning war crimes of the Red Army and the Secret Services of
> the USSR. That is strongly questionable.
> Thus, we should ask N.F. about her position on that. Every nation after
> this War hat its share on crimes, some minor, other extreme (Nazi Germany,
> with strong involvement of Austrians), and some both: great engagement
> (thank you), but also serious war crimes. A strong statement is sufficient
> for me.
> Best regards,
> Erich Schweighofer
>
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> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Mai 2021 07:26
> An: Sebicann Bachollet
> Cc: Discussion for At-Large Europe
> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] 2021 EURALO Regional Selections (Secretariat)
>
> I agree that she has done an excellent job.
> I have been impressed not only by her enthusiasm but also on how fast she
> has learned and has become an essential resource for EURALO.
> R.
>
> On 10.05.2021, at 19:44, Sebicann Bachollet via EURO-Discuss <
> euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:
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> euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>> wrote:
>
> I would like to nominate Natalia Filina to be return as EURALO Secretary
> for the term AGM2021-AGM2023.
> She has done a superbe job.
> The monthly newsletter is a must and her involvement in EURALO Activities
> and in the various committees of At-Large/ALAC regarding Outreach and
> engagement is to be underline.
> Thanks all for considering.
>
>
> All the best
> SeB
>
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> To: Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com<mailto:
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> Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 10:45:37 +0200
> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] 2021 EURALO Regional Selections (Secretariat)
> I agee with Lutz and Roberto. ICANN is an international organisation and I
> wonder where should we draw the line if we where to consider political
> positions across the world? Who should judge them? This is also not the
> practice at NomCom.
> Natalia has my full support to continue as the EURALO Secretary if she
> wishes to. For the first time since I am a member of EURALO this position
> was constantly visible. She did a great job.
>
> Best
> Sandra
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> Am 11.05.2021 um 10:19 schrieb Roberto Gaetano via EURO-Discuss <
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> I am not on FB, so I have asked my wife to check.
>
> I have two comments:
>
>   *   nowhere in her post does the word “Communist” appear, she is talking
> about the Red Army
>   *   I have worked for many years at a UN Agency where there were many
> Russians and former USSR citizens - none of them was communist, quite the
> contrary - and every year they organised at the UN premises a big party, to
> which a multicultural, multiethnic, and in all ways diverse crowd joyfully
> participated
>
> Talking to the former USSR people, none of which was discounting or
> negating the crimes perpetrated, I learned that for them the end of a war
> that has caused 25M deaths - according to the most conservative estimates -
> out of which at least 17M civilians - was something to celebrate forever.
> And I ended up in agreeing with them - it’s something rooted in the Russian
> people, and has little relationship with a political stance.
>
> So, in summary, while I appreciate Erich pointing out this fact - it is
> always good to do background checking - I don’t think that making a post in
> celebration of the 9 May Victory Day is something that is out of order or
> that in any way requires further action.
>
> Cheers,
> Roberto
>
>
>
> On 11.05.2021, at 08:58, SCHWEIGHOFER Erich Prof. Dr. Dr.. <
> erich.schweighofer at univie.ac.at<mailto:erich.schweighofer at univie.ac.at
> ><mailto:erich.schweighofer at univie.ac.at<mailto:
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>
> I think that the N.F. has done a good job, promoting topics and those she
> considers important. As secretary, she has the discretion to do that, in
> co-operation with the Chair.
>
> As a former NomCom member, I do a routine job on checking details.
> Here, I am worried that she shows - on her face book account - great
> enthusiasm about the great victory of the Communists in the 2nd World War
> without mentioning war crimes of the Red Army and the Secret Services of
> the USSR. That is strongly questionable.
> Thus, we should ask N.F. about her position on that. Every nation after
> this War hat its share on crimes, some minor, other extreme (Nazi Germany,
> with strong involvement of Austrians), and some both: great engagement
> (thank you), but also serious war crimes. A strong statement is sufficient
> for me.
> Best regards,
> Erich Schweighofer
>
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> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Mai 2021 07:26
> An: Sebicann Bachollet
> Cc: Discussion for At-Large Europe
> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] 2021 EURALO Regional Selections (Secretariat)
>
> I agree that she has done an excellent job.
> I have been impressed not only by her enthusiasm but also on how fast she
> has learned and has become an essential resource for EURALO.
> R.
>
> On 10.05.2021, at 19:44, Sebicann Bachollet via EURO-Discuss <
> euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:
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> euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>> wrote:
>
> I would like to nominate Natalia Filina to be return as EURALO Secretary
> for the term AGM2021-AGM2023.
> She has done a superbe job.
> The monthly newsletter is a must and her involvement in EURALO Activities
> and in the various committees of At-Large/ALAC regarding Outreach and
> engagement is to be underline.
> Thanks all for considering.
>
>
> All the best
> SeB
>
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