<div dir="auto">Thank you Dev for sharing this post.<div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto">I am excited to know this issue and will read more on this to learn more.</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 12 Sep 2023, 3:17 pm , <<a href="mailto:at-large-request@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large-request@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send At-Large mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some TLDs but not<br>
others? (Dev Anand Teelucksingh)<br>
2. Re: DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some TLDs but<br>
not others? (BF)<br>
3. Re: DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some TLDs but<br>
not others? (Bill Jouris)<br>
<br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Dev Anand Teelucksingh <<a href="mailto:devtee@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">devtee@gmail.com</a>><br>To: At-Large Worldwide <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 10:42:09 -0400<br>Subject: [At-Large] DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some TLDs but not others?<br><div dir="ltr">"<b>Developers of major pieces of internet software, including
the world’s most-popular messaging app, may be relying on seriously
outdated lists of top-level domains.</b>
<p>That’s the picture that seems to be emerging from one new gTLD
operator’s quest to discover why WhatsApp doesn’t recognize its TLD, and
many others including major dot-brands, as valid."</p>....When most social media apps detect the user has inputted a URL or domain name, they automatically “linkify” it so it can be easily clicked or tapped without the need for copy/paste.<br><br>But when Rami Schwartz of new gTLD .tube discovered that .tube URLs sent via WhatsApp, said to have two billion users, were not being linkified, despite the TLD being delegated by ICANN almost eight years ago, he set out to find out why.<br><br>Schwartz compiled a spreadsheet (.xlsx) listing which gTLDs are recognized by WhatsApp and which are not and discovered a rough cut-off point in November 2015. TLDs delegated before then are linkified, those delegated after were not......This means that, for example, .microsoft domains linkify but .amazon and .apple domains do not; .asia domains linkify but .africa and .arab domains do not; .london works but .abudhabi doesn’t. Even .verisign missed the cut-off.<br><br>If WhatsApp users include a “www.” or “http://” then the app will linkify the domain, even if the specified TLD does not exist.<br><br>.....During the course of <a href="https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/issues/1807" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a discussion</a>
on the web site of the Public Suffix List — which maintains an
open-source list of all TLDs and the levels at which names may be
registered — it was discovered that the problem may be deeper rooted
than the WhatsApp app.
<p>It turns out <a href="https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/main:frameworks/base/core/java/android/util/Patterns.java;l=114" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">a library in the Android operating system</a> contains a hard-coded list of valid TLDs which hasn’t been updated since November 24, 2015" </p>
Read full article : <br><div><a href="https://domainincite.com/29054-is-this-why-whatsapp-hates-some-tlds-but-not-others" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://domainincite.com/29054-is-this-why-whatsapp-hates-some-tlds-but-not-others</a></div><div><br><br></div><div>Regards,<br><br></div><div>Dev Anand Teelucksingh<br></div></div>
<br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: BF <<a href="mailto:betty@ipeos.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">betty@ipeos.com</a>><br>To: Dev Anand Teelucksingh <<a href="mailto:devtee@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">devtee@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: At-Large Worldwide <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>Bcc: <br>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 10:59:13 -0400<br>Subject: Re: [At-Large] DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some TLDs but not others?<br><div dir="auto">Since 2015!<div dir="auto">Geez!<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Sent from Android device</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 12 sept. 2023 10:42, Dev Anand Teelucksingh via At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> a écrit :<br type="attribution"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">"<b>Developers of major pieces of internet software, including
the world’s most-popular messaging app, may be relying on seriously
outdated lists of top-level domains.</b>
<p>That’s the picture that seems to be emerging from one new gTLD
operator’s quest to discover why WhatsApp doesn’t recognize its TLD, and
many others including major dot-brands, as valid."</p>....When most social media apps detect the user has inputted a URL or domain name, they automatically “linkify” it so it can be easily clicked or tapped without the need for copy/paste.<br><br>But when Rami Schwartz of new gTLD .tube discovered that .tube URLs sent via WhatsApp, said to have two billion users, were not being linkified, despite the TLD being delegated by ICANN almost eight years ago, he set out to find out why.<br><br>Schwartz compiled a spreadsheet (.xlsx) listing which gTLDs are recognized by WhatsApp and which are not and discovered a rough cut-off point in November 2015. TLDs delegated before then are linkified, those delegated after were not......This means that, for example, .microsoft domains linkify but .amazon and .apple domains do not; .asia domains linkify but .africa and .arab domains do not; .london works but .abudhabi doesn’t. Even .verisign missed the cut-off.<br><br>If WhatsApp users include a “www.” or “http://” then the app will linkify the domain, even if the specified TLD does not exist.<br><br>.....During the course of <a href="https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/issues/1807" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">a discussion</a>
on the web site of the Public Suffix List — which maintains an
open-source list of all TLDs and the levels at which names may be
registered — it was discovered that the problem may be deeper rooted
than the WhatsApp app.
<p>It turns out <a href="https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/main:frameworks/base/core/java/android/util/Patterns.java;l=114" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">a library in the Android operating system</a> contains a hard-coded list of valid TLDs which hasn’t been updated since November 24, 2015" </p>
Read full article : <br><div><a href="https://domainincite.com/29054-is-this-why-whatsapp-hates-some-tlds-but-not-others" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://domainincite.com/29054-is-this-why-whatsapp-hates-some-tlds-but-not-others</a></div><div><br><br></div><div>Regards,<br><br></div><div>Dev Anand Teelucksingh<br></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Bill Jouris <<a href="mailto:b_jouris@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">b_jouris@yahoo.com</a>><br>To: ICANN At-Large List <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 15:17:16 +0000 (UTC)<br>Subject: Re: [At-Large] DomainIncite : Is this why WhatsApp hates some TLDs but not others?<br><div>He complains that he couldn't get ICANN interested in the problem. It would be interesting to know just who at ICANN he was talking to. </div><div><br></div><div>Bill Jouris</div><br><br><div id="m_370525721772831130ymail_android_signature"><a id="m_370525721772831130ymail_android_signature_link" href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div> <br> <blockquote style="margin:0 0 20px 0"> <div style="font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;color:#6d00f6"> <div>On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 7:43 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh via At-Large</div><div><<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> wrote:</div> </div> <div style="padding:10px 0 0 20px;margin:10px 0 0 0;border-left:1px solid #6d00f6"> <div id="m_370525721772831130yiv2359506762"><div dir="ltr">"<b>Developers of major pieces of internet software, including
the world’s most-popular messaging app, may be relying on seriously
outdated lists of top-level domains.</b>
<p>That’s the picture that seems to be emerging from one new gTLD
operator’s quest to discover why WhatsApp doesn’t recognize its TLD, and
many others including major dot-brands, as valid."</p>....When most social media apps detect the user has inputted a URL or domain name, they automatically “linkify” it so it can be easily clicked or tapped without the need for copy/paste.<br><br>But when Rami Schwartz of new gTLD .tube discovered that .tube URLs sent via WhatsApp, said to have two billion users, were not being linkified, despite the TLD being delegated by ICANN almost eight years ago, he set out to find out why.<br><br>Schwartz compiled a spreadsheet (.xlsx) listing which gTLDs are recognized by WhatsApp and which are not and discovered a rough cut-off point in November 2015. TLDs delegated before then are linkified, those delegated after were not......This means that, for example, .microsoft domains linkify but .amazon and .apple domains do not; .asia domains linkify but .africa and .arab domains do not; .london works but .abudhabi doesn’t. Even .verisign missed the cut-off.<br><br>If WhatsApp users include a “www.” or “http://” then the app will linkify the domain, even if the specified TLD does not exist.<br><br>.....During the course of <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferrer" href="https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/issues/1807" target="_blank">a discussion</a>
on the web site of the Public Suffix List — which maintains an
open-source list of all TLDs and the levels at which names may be
registered — it was discovered that the problem may be deeper rooted
than the WhatsApp app.
<p>It turns out <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferrer" href="https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/main:frameworks/base/core/java/android/util/Patterns.java;l=114" target="_blank">a library in the Android operating system</a> contains a hard-coded list of valid TLDs which hasn’t been updated since November 24, 2015" </p>
Read full article : <br><div><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferrer" href="https://domainincite.com/29054-is-this-why-whatsapp-hates-some-tlds-but-not-others" target="_blank">https://domainincite.com/29054-is-this-why-whatsapp-hates-some-tlds-but-not-others</a></div><div><br><br></div><div>Regards,<br><br></div><div>Dev Anand Teelucksingh<br></div></div>
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