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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/14/23 7:58 AM, Evan Leibovitch via
      At-Large wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">This credibility challenge can only be addressed by
        a radical rethink of ALAC, and changes that go far beyond those
        of the third-party reviews held to date. These changes keep in
        mind that the general public attitudes towards ICANN are close
        to those regarding other kinds of public infrastructure. In
        other words, most people just don't care until something breaks.
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              class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000">(Funny how
                other forms of public infrastructure such as sewage,
                electricity generation, air-travel coordination and
                roads don't see any calls to be improved through
                multi-stakeholder governance.)</font><br>
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    I'll try to refrain from a pre-ICANN formation, 25+ year old "I told
    us so".  ;-)
    <p>But perhaps I'll allude to a 14 year old one:<br>
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    <p>See page 32-37 of the "Review of the At‐Large Advisory Committee
      - Final Report<br>
      of the ALAC Review Working Group on ALAC Improvements"</p>
    <p>(I'll link to a copy on my website - I'm having trouble finding
      this rather expensive report on ICANN's own website. Perhaps my
      web search skills are taking the day off.)<br>
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    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.cavebear.com/docs/final-report-alac-review-28jan09-en.pdf">https://www.cavebear.com/docs/final-report-alac-review-28jan09-en.pdf</a></p>
    <p>And never bypassing a chance at self promotion, here's my general
      feeling about "stakeholder" models (summary: it's not a positive
      feeling.)<br>
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    Democracy Versus Stakeholderism
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    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.cavebear.com/cavebear-blog/stakeholder_sock_puppet/">https://www.cavebear.com/cavebear-blog/stakeholder_sock_puppet/</a></p>
    <p>        --karl--<br>
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