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--></style></head><body lang=fr-TN link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>True Laura, Absolutely true. Not only Montreal, The Hague also, the Chair of AFRALO couldn’t make it because of visa issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In London, we had an At-Large Summit, and a lot of our ALS representatives were absent also because of visa issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In the ICANN Meeting Strategy Working Group, the visa problem was my main focus: I proposed that ICANN shouldn’t hold a meeting in a country that doesn’t give visa to all our participants. I was told that if ICANN apply this rule, we won’t be able to hold meeting because each country has its restrictions and there is no country without access restrictions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Tijani<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De : </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> au nom de Laura Margolis via At-Large <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org><br><b>Répondre à : </b>Laura Margolis <margolisl@gmail.com><br><b>Date : </b>dimanche 31 juillet 2022 à 18:28<br><b>À : </b>Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com><br><b>Cc : </b>At Large <At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org><br><b>Objet : </b>Re: [At-Large] ICANN75: Selecting Malaysia and inclusiveness<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes, true about locations, not always easy for everyone. I remember last meeting in Montreal many people had lots of issues with visas and couldn't finally arrive.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Laura Margolis<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>El dom, 31 jul 2022 a las 11:13, Glenn McKnight via At-Large (<<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>) escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Interesting point made by Hank on the fact ICANN selected Malaysia. The selection process for ICANN meetings clearly needs to be assessed. This is also a country with anti-homosexual policies See <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Malaysia" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Malaysia</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Glenn McKnight, MA <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Virtual School of Internet Governance <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Chief Information Officer<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.virtualsig.org" target="_blank">www.virtualsig.org</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>YOUR SOURCE FOR INTERNET GOVERNANCE EDUCATION </b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Mobile 437-237-4655</b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 at 03:03, Hank Nussbacher via At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>On 22/07/2022 20:35, Roberto Gaetano via At-Large wrote:<br><br>I think you should all be grateful that you can attend ICANN 75. To <br>quote from:<br><a href="https://www.icann.org/diversity-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/diversity-en</a><br>"To live up to this responsibility, ICANN is committed to promoting <br>greater diversity and supporting broad, inclusive participation in its <br>processes."<br><br>The upcoming ICANN 75 meeting takes place in Kuala Lumpur . Quoting <br>from the Wikipedia page:<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Malaysia_relations" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Malaysia_relations</a><br>"Malaysian passports bear the inscription: "This passport is valid for <br>all countries except Israel". Israeli passport holders are forbidden to <br>enter Malaysia without written permission from the Malaysian Ministry of <br>Home Affairs."<br><br>One can of course claim that travel restrictions have been eased <br>recently as per:<br><a href="https://visalist.io/malaysia/visa-requirements/israel" target="_blank">https://visalist.io/malaysia/visa-requirements/israel</a><br>which requires 9 documents and an appearance at the Malaysian embassy - <br>closest of which is in Jordan.<br><br>How does ICANN live up to its commitment to "inclusiveness" if it <br>selects a country that forbids the participation of Israel (or makes it <br>close to impossible to get a visa)?<br><br>Regards,<br>Hank Nussbacher<br><br>Caveat: The views expressed above are solely my own and do not express <br>the views or opinions of my employer<br><br>> Hi Bill<br>><br>> Not radical, but with some imaginative clauses that sound weird to the <br>> ears of somebody that is not a lawyer and does not live in a country <br>> that is particularly inclined to solve matters in courts.<br>><br>> Here is an example that, if taken seriously, would oblige me to ask <br>> some questions:<br>><br>> /This Liability Waiver and Release is specifically binding upon my<br>> heirs and assigns and is knowingly given./<br>><br>><br>> Do I need to ask my (hopefully future) heirs to also sign the waiver? <br>> And if they don’t want, or even produce an official document, signed <br>> in the hands of a notary or other official authority, that they <br>> specifically do not acknowledge the obligation of being obliged to <br>> comply with this clause - maybe saying that they formally recommended <br>> that I take this trip, what would happen? How can ICANN enforce this <br>> clause in my jurisdiction - actually, in the jurisdiction of my heirs <br>> - in front of a formal statement of them prior to the fact? And if I <br>> attach this document of my heirs to my application, what would ICANN <br>> do? Reject my registration because one of the clauses of the waiver is <br>> not enforceable?<br>><br>> This is one more reason for loving the ICANN community, never a dull <br>> moment and a lot of fun :-)<br>><br>> Cheers,<br>> Roberto<br>><br>><br>><br>>> On 22.07.2022, at 18:18, Bill Jouris via At-Large <br>>> <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> As such things go, this isn't a particularly radical waiver. A bit <br>>> wordier than average, but nothing novel in substance.<br>>><br>>> Bill Jouris<br>>><br>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <br>>> <<a href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature" target="_blank">https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature</a>><br>>><br>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 8:20 AM, Marita Moll via At-Large<br>>> <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> At-Large mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">At-Large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br>>> <a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large" target="_blank">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large</a><br>>><br>>> At-Large Official Site: <a href="http://atlarge.icann.org" target="_blank">http://atlarge.icann.org</a><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing<br>>> of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing<br>>> list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy<br>>> (<a href="https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy</a>) and the website Terms of<br>>> Service (<a href="https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos</a>). 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