<div dir="ltr">Yes, true about locations, not always easy for everyone. I remember last meeting in Montreal many people had lots of issues with visas and couldn't finally arrive.<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Laura Margolis</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El dom, 31 jul 2022 a las 11:13, Glenn McKnight via At-Large (<<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Interesting point made by Hank on the fact ICANN selected Malaysia.  The selection process for ICANN meetings clearly needs to be assessed.  This is also a country with anti-homosexual policies   See  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Malaysia" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Malaysia</a><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Glenn McKnight, MA </div><div>Virtual School of Internet Governance </div>Chief Information Officer<div><a href="http://www.virtualsig.org" target="_blank">www.virtualsig.org</a> </div><div><b>YOUR SOURCE FOR INTERNET GOVERNANCE EDUCATION </b></div><div><b>Mobile  437-237-4655</b></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 at 03:03, Hank Nussbacher via At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 22/07/2022 20:35, Roberto Gaetano via At-Large wrote:<br>
<br>
I think you should all be grateful that you can attend ICANN 75.  To <br>
quote from:<br>
<a href="https://www.icann.org/diversity-en" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/diversity-en</a><br>
"To live up to this responsibility, ICANN is committed to promoting <br>
greater diversity and supporting broad, inclusive participation in its <br>
processes."<br>
<br>
The upcoming ICANN 75 meeting takes place in Kuala Lumpur .  Quoting <br>
from the Wikipedia page:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Malaysia_relations" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Malaysia_relations</a><br>
"Malaysian passports bear the inscription: "This passport is valid for <br>
all countries except Israel". Israeli passport holders are forbidden to <br>
enter Malaysia without written permission from the Malaysian Ministry of <br>
Home Affairs."<br>
<br>
One can of course claim that travel restrictions have been eased <br>
recently as per:<br>
<a href="https://visalist.io/malaysia/visa-requirements/israel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://visalist.io/malaysia/visa-requirements/israel</a><br>
which requires 9 documents and an appearance at the Malaysian embassy - <br>
closest of which is in Jordan.<br>
<br>
How does ICANN live up to its commitment to "inclusiveness" if it <br>
selects a country that forbids the participation of Israel (or makes it <br>
close to impossible to get a visa)?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Hank Nussbacher<br>
<br>
Caveat: The views expressed above are solely my own and do not express <br>
the views or opinions of my employer<br>
<br>
> Hi Bill<br>
><br>
> Not radical, but with some imaginative clauses that sound weird to the <br>
> ears of somebody that is not a lawyer and does not live in a country <br>
> that is particularly inclined to solve matters in courts.<br>
><br>
> Here is an example that, if taken seriously, would oblige me to ask <br>
> some questions:<br>
><br>
>     /This Liability Waiver and Release is specifically binding upon my<br>
>     heirs and assigns and is knowingly given./<br>
><br>
><br>
> Do I need to ask my (hopefully future) heirs to also sign the waiver? <br>
> And if they don’t want, or even produce an official document, signed <br>
> in the hands of a notary or other official authority, that they <br>
> specifically do not acknowledge the obligation of being obliged to <br>
> comply with this clause - maybe saying that they formally recommended <br>
> that I take this trip, what would happen? How can ICANN enforce this <br>
> clause in my jurisdiction - actually, in the jurisdiction of my heirs <br>
> - in front of a formal statement of them prior to the fact? And if I <br>
> attach this document of my heirs to my application, what would ICANN <br>
> do? Reject my registration because one of the clauses of the waiver is <br>
> not enforceable?<br>
><br>
> This is one more reason for loving the ICANN community, never a dull <br>
> moment and a lot of fun :-)<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Roberto<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>> On 22.07.2022, at 18:18, Bill Jouris via At-Large <br>
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>><br>
>> As such things go, this isn't a particularly radical waiver.  A bit <br>
>> wordier than average, but nothing novel in substance.<br>
>><br>
>> Bill Jouris<br>
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