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Roberto, the excuse of it being in the CEO contract is twaddle! If that
was accepted by Board members, it is shameful. If the change is warranted
(and good) - as I believe it was and is, even if the contract was
inviolate, the Bylaws could be written with a transition clause saying it
applied to future CEOs.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 2022-07-27 05:41 AM, Roberto Gaetano via At-Large wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Karl, <br><br>
Following on your “off-topic” (I changed the subject line) I wold
like to add a bit of history.<br><br>
You wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><br>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times">A lot of our BWG proposals are still
quite relevant, for instance, not putting the President/CEO into a seat
on the board of directors .</font>></blockquote><br>
When I was chairing the Board Review WG, I argued against having the CEO
as a voting member rather than ex-officio observer. Besides any
governance model, having to vote on issues that he would have been called
to execute could put the CEO in an embarrassing position: what if he
voted against, and the motion passed? This was, IMHO, not just a
theoretical exercise, but something that could really happen on
politically sensitive issues, like the .xxx delegation (in that case,
Paul abstained, and the application was rejected by one or two
votes).<br><br>
My approach was considered, but the Chair argued that for the current CEO
the provision was built in the contract, and could not be changed, but
this would have been taken into account for the next CEO. Then I left the
Board, and lost track of the later events, but it looks that the
situation still remains unchanged.<br><br>
Cheers,<br>
Roberto<br><br>
<br><br>
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">On 26.07.2022, at 21:39, Karl
Auerbach via At-Large
<<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">
at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>
I'm going to be somewhat diverging from the main topic....<br>
On 7/26/22 8:14 AM, Marita Moll wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><br>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times">And so it is with ICANN. It exists --
a unique multistakeholder governance system. Lots of things wrong with
it. But it exists. So, for those who want to, they can keep working at
it, keep looking for improvement, keep challenging the
system.</font></blockquote><br>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times">I've long been in opposition to the
"stakeholder" model of governance. I was horrified when I
first saw it just after Jon Postel died</font>, and became more horrified
watching Joe Sims of Jones Day ramming it down our collective
throats. In the Boston Working Group proposal for "NewCo"
we tried to mitigate some of the worst aspects.<br><br>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times">See
<a href="https://cavebear.com/archive/bwg/">
https://cavebear.com/archive/bwg/</a> for the Boston Working Group
proposals.<br>
</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times">A lot of our BWG proposals are still
quite relevant, for instance, not putting the President/CEO into a seat
on the board of directors and moving some ICANN powers into the Articles
of Incorporation and requiring exercise of those powers to be approved by
more than merely the board (in those days that larger body could have
been "the members" but ICANN sank that ship long ago - but it
can be, and ought to be, re-floated.)<br>
</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times">My most recent piece in opposition to
stakeholder based systems may be found here:<br>
</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times">Democracy Versus Stakeholderism -
<a href="https://www.cavebear.com/cavebear-blog/stakeholder_sock_puppet/">
https://www.cavebear.com/cavebear-blog/stakeholder_sock_puppet/</a><br>
</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times">
--karl--<br>
</font><br>
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