<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Marita</div><div><br></div>Thanks for the article by Michele<div>Good to see we are in agreement with iCANN's initial "alienating" approach which as you say is still hovering in the new version.</div><div>But it is better with regards to several of the issues we raised as a community for which I am proud. </div><div>And our efforts obviously appreciated by others.</div><div>I don't have the same concerns about covid. Going to and from the Hague, I wore a mask on the whole journey - which was compulsory on the flights I was on from NZ right through to Europe, but of my own volition once in Europe. There is a bit of self-care required. But it was worth it to be among our At-Large friends again. </div><div> </div><div>M</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 5:19 AM Marita Moll <<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Hi folks. Let me add
the following to this discussion.</font></p>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">The waiver has certainly
been revamped. ICANN no longer absolves itself of responsibility
if it can be shown that they are truly at fault for whatever event
occurred. But it still circles around to a similiar hard line in
which we assume all of the risks associated with attending the
meeting in return for ICANN granting us the privilege and
permission to attend the meeting in order to do the work of
fulfilling their mandate. It is an upside down model.</font><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"> But in the world of waivers,
this is probably close to a template. </font><font face="Times
New Roman, Times, serif">Our minor rebellion last time did have an
impact. </font><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font face="Times New
Roman, Times, serif"><br>
</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">My concerns about
attending this meeting are now centering more to the very real
risk of catching co-vid en route and spending the entire time in
a hotel room attending the meeting virtually (total of 50 hours
unnecessary flying time). ICANN is not taking a risk on me -- so
I wonder why I would take such a risk.<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"> Michele Neylon of
Blacknight has written a blog on the current and previous
versions of the waiver -- with generous mention of our efforts
back in June. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><a href="https://www.internetnews.me/2022/07/22/icann-still-insisting-their-waiver-is-normal/" target="_blank">ICANN
Still Insisting Their Waiver is "Normal" (internetnews.me)</a><br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Marita </font></p>
<div>On 2022-07-21 6:49 p.m., Glenn McKnight
via At-Large wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi
<div>I got mine and i responded and completed my complicated
trip multi city trips. I am paying the two hops myself outside
of ICANN activities. Waiting for travel to get back to me on
the intinery . I assume those coming from the west they would
be provided with extra travel days for stipend</div>
<div>G</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 at 17:35,
Maureen Hilyard via At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">HI Roberto
<div>I was rather surprised at their haste in having our
registration forms returned.</div>
<div>I read the waiver and passed on some concerns to Alan
and Greg hopefully to get some clarity and hope that all
is well for signing.</div>
<div>Leon did say that our issues had been addressed in this
new version but it would be helpful to get reassurance
from others.</div>
<div>M</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at
11:07 AM Roberto Gaetano via At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
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Dear all
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I would like to draw your attention to the message
below.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Earlier today I have received it in my capacity of
NextGen Mentor, and I assume that the NextGen Mentees
have received the same. For the NextGen Mentees this
is likely to be one of the first contacts with
<a href="http://ICANN.org" target="_blank">ICANN.org</a>, so they will
be shaping their opinion on the organization on this.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The message arrived a few hours ago, but I am
reading it only now, at the end of the business day,
when I am looking at tasks that I am doing a volunteer
- I imagine that for a few Mentees this would be the
same.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am asked to complete my registration by tomorrow.
The registration process includes several actions,
that I do not repeat here because you can read them
below, highlighted in red - with apologies to the
folks that have emails in plain text only. I assume
that people are expected to read docs like standards
of behaviour, anti-harassment policy, etc. before
signing them - and also reflect on what that means for
them. Remember what happened at ICANN74 with the
waiver - I, for one, will read the (hopefully updated)
waiver before signing, and this will take time. But
this needs to be done in 24h.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>On the other hand, I can expect an approval only
after 2-3 business days - being today a Thursday, this
means 4-5 calendar days.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Being committed to the ICANN standards of
behaviour, I will not add any comments to this note.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Roberto</div>
<div><br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
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<div style="margin:0px">
<span><b>From:
</b></span><span>ICANN Travel
Support <<a href="mailto:travelsupport@icann.org" target="_blank">travelsupport@icann.org</a>><br>
</span></div>
<div style="margin:0px">
<span><b>Subject:
</b></span><span><b>ICANN75:
Mandatory Funded Traveler Registration for
Roberto Gaetano</b><br>
</span></div>
<div style="margin:0px">
<span><b>Date:
</b></span><span>21. July 2022
at 07:51:45 CEST<br>
</span></div>
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<span><b>To:
</b></span><span><a href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com" target="_blank">roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com</a><br>
</span></div>
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<div style="color:rgb(62,62,62);margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="color:rgb(10,10,10);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span>Hello
Roberto
Gaetano,</span>,</span></div>
<p style="color:rgb(62,62,62);margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="color:rgb(10,10,10);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
<div style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="color:rgb(25,25,25)">We are looking forward to your in-person
participation
in ICANN75 in
Kuala Lumpur,
Malaysia.
Before we can
start your
travel booking
for the
upcoming
meeting, you
are required
to register. </span><span><font color="#ff2600"><b>As part of the registration process, you will be
asked to
confirm your
agreement to
all terms and
conditions for
travel,
including
agreement to
follow the
Community
Travel
Guidelines,
Expected
Standards of
Behavior, the
Community
Anti-Harassment
Policy and
Procedure, and
the travel
waiver and
acknowledgement,
which includes
a commitment
to follow
ICANN’s health
and safety
measures
during
ICANN75. Your
agreement is
required prior
to ICANN
funding your
travel.</b></font></span></div>
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