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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We included the waivers from both IETF and ARIN in our reconsideration request to ICANN:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">At-Large <at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Glenn McKnight via At-Large <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 27 April 2022 at 22:53<br>
<b>To: </b>Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>At Large <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [At-Large] info on waiver to attend ICANN74I<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As pointed out  that  ICANN has always been super cautious and legalistic( sometimes to a fault) curious if other events IETF, ARIN etc has adopted such 'protect my ass" approach to an event.  On the other
 hand, waivers doesn't  protect those that perpetuate negligence,  you can't do blanket waivers as Roberto indicated. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 at 16:38, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro via At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The important thing to note is that the US is a litigious nation and it is within ICANN's purview to create waiver forms for its events otherwise it would not be able to host a physical event. For those who
 don't like it, they can participate virtually or wear immunity suits.....lol<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 9:33 PM Roberto Gaetano via At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT",serif;color:black">I knowingly and freely assume all risks related to illness and infectious diseases, including but not limited to COVID-19,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This means to me that I acknowledge that ICANN has the right to be negligent. I have to confess that sometimes in the past I have thought that this was ICANN’s approach, but it is the first time that I see
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I wonder whether this is a sort of friendly advice to participate online and avoid showing up in person in the Hague.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On 27.04.2022, at 22:09, Marita Moll via At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Dear colleagues. If you are planning to attend ICANN74, please note that you will be required to sign a very broadly worded waiver that goes well beyond any issues related to the pandemic. You can read the waiver here:
<a href="https://www.internetnews.me/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/ICANN-waiver.pdf" target="_blank">
https://www.internetnews.me/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/ICANN-waiver.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Several registrars have asked that this requirement be dropped <a href="https://domainincite.com/27793-icanns-covid-19-waiver-formally-appealed" target="_blank">
https://domainincite.com/27793-icanns-covid-19-waiver-formally-appealed</a>. <o:p>
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<p>Michele Neylon, Managing Director of Blacknight Solutions, seeking legal advice on behalf of himself and staff, was advised that neither he nor his staff should sign a waiver granting ICANN blanket exclusion of liability.
<a href="https://blacknight.blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/blacknight-ICANN-April-2022-Hague-waiver.pdf" target="_blank">
<span style="color:navy">https://blacknight.blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/blacknight-ICANN-April-2022-Hague-waiver.pdf</span></a> .<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>It is an unsettling way to begin what was looking like a new beginning after so many hours at virtual public meetings.  I have attended more public meetings in my life than I could ever count, and have never been asked to sign such an extensive waiver. 
 I would be interested to know if others have ever encountered this.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Marita Moll, ALAC rep. for NARALO<o:p></o:p></p>
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