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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-IN link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thank you for arranging the call Jonathan.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Much as I would have loved to join in this discussion, my sincere apologies for not being able to join in as the time is not suitable for me (and I guess for many from certain parts of APAC).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Look forward to the read or hear the recording and sharing my views then.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Amrita<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> <br><b>Sent:</b> 03 March 2022 09:46<br><b>To:</b> Karl Auerbach <karl@cavebear.com>; Amrita Choudhury <amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in>; 'Sebicann Bachollet' <sebicann@bachollet.fr>; 'ALAC' <alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; 'RALO Leadership' <secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org><br><b>Cc:</b> 'At Large' <at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [At-Large] [Secretariat] EURALO Board communiqué<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:#212121'>Single issue call tomorrow at 1900 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:#212121'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:#212121'><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/PxoiCw">https://community.icann.org/x/PxoiCw</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=ms-outlook-mobile-signature><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Jonathan Zuck<br>Executive Director<br>Innovators Network Foundation<br><a href="http://www.InnovatorsNetwork.org" target="_blank">www.InnovatorsNetwork.org</a><br>Main: +1 (202) 827-7594<br>Direct: +1 (202) 420-7483<o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> on behalf of Karl Auerbach via At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 2, 2022 12:44:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> Amrita Choudhury <<a href="mailto:amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in">amritachoudhury@ccaoi.in</a>>; 'Sebicann Bachollet' <<a href="mailto:sebicann@bachollet.fr">sebicann@bachollet.fr</a>>; 'ALAC' <<a href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org">alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>; 'RALO Leadership' <<a href="mailto:secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org">secretariat@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> 'At Large' <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [At-Large] [Secretariat] EURALO Board communiqué</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p style='background:white'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>On 3/2/22 3:33 AM, Amrita Choudhury via At-Large wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Agree with the statement.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>The situation in Ukraine is very unfortunate.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=xmsonormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>However, Internet should remain on, for all and ICANN services should remain neutral and apolitical.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>To my mind remaining "neutral and apolitical" is neither of those things.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>The Ukrainian military is using explosives to destroy its own roads and bridges to slow the invasion. Yes, that does hinder civil society and resistance. However, it is a choice that the Ukrainians themselves have made.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>The internet is another kind of road that is carrying another kind of invasion. Why should we hesitate to follow the Ukrainian's own example?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>If we were entrusted with a drawbridge over a river and we see a caravan of Black Marias (unmarked vehicles sent by the Stalin/Beria's NKVD to secretly fetch people to the Gulag) approaching. Would we say "Oh, my job is to promote the open flow of traffic, so I will not raise the bridge." Our would we say "I must raise the drawbridge to block this abomination?"</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>If ICANN is silent than we ought not to be surprised if we subsequently are endowed with an ill reputation not unlike that of IBM resulting from its actions in Germany 1933 through 1945.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>To my mind the question for ICANN is not whether to act. Rather the question is how to act. That act may be as simple as a statement articulating the balances to be made, the limits of ICANN's powers, etc. Or it may be as complex as a temporary redelegation of .ru.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>In these situations I look for guiding principles. Among these are the desire to maintain internet connectivity for use by those opposing this invasion, the desire to not add further pressures that could induce future internet fragmentation, the limits of ICANN's contractual authority over these things, etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>I also look to ICANN's position under the law as a "public benefit" corporation. I, personally, do not see how silence regarding death of innocents and armed invasion benefits the public.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Murder ought never be answered with a dismissive "tut, tut, how unfortunate".</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> --karl--</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='background:white'><o:p> </o:p></p><p style='background:white'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>