<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">My personal opinion is that IDNs address a real problem of people who do use a non-latin script and have the legitimate interest to be able to use their own language and script. If the Internet aims at being multilingual and provide equal access to everybody, there is a need to solve the issue of scripts used by different languages - including Irish fada, because as Michele has explained time and again there are cases in which a word with fada has a completely different meaning than the similar one without. So in this case, spending time and resources by ICANN is in order.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">OTOH, my personal opinion is that the use of emoji is just a vanity problem. People have the right to ask for vanity solutions, and businesses have the right to produce “innovation” that addresses this, but the question is why should ICANN (UASG) devote some of its (scarce) resources to support this? I think that the only thing that we should care about is that whatever “innovative” way to make money using the DNS does not break it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">R.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 20.02.2022, at 17:49, Carlton Samuels via At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Recall the argument against emoji characters in a name stems from the fact that while emoji - and emoji-like - characters are accorded Unicode subscription, their categorization and the lack of a single acceptable standard for rendering them made their consistent interpretation and resolution 'touchy, at best'. The conclusive advice: disallowed.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">The IDN taskforce and Universal Acceptance folks have been grappling with this for some time now.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Carlton</div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class="">==============================<br class=""><i class=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" class="">Carlton A Samuels</font></i><br class=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" class=""><i class="">Mobile: 876-818-1799<br class=""><font color="#33CC00" class="">Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround</font></i></font><br class="">=============================</div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 09:09, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via At-Large <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail-m_-4587951784371957245WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">I’ve been *<b class="">trying</b>* to use a domain name with a fada (accent) in it both to send a receive email.
<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">It has NOT been going well:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><a href="https://michele.blog/trying-domains-with-accents-again-idn-domains/" target="_blank" class="">https://michele.blog/trying-domains-with-accents-again-idn-domains/</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">So the likelihood of this emoji thing working with email is about slim to none<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">--<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Mr Michele Neylon<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Blacknight Solutions<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Hosting, Colocation & Domains<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" class="">https://www.blacknight.com/</span></a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class=""><a href="https://blacknight.blog/" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" class="">https://blacknight.blog/</span></a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" class="">https://michele.blog/</span></a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Some thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/" target="_blank" class=""><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" class="">https://ceo.hosting/</span></a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">-------------------------------<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: -webkit-standard;" class="">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<b class="">Date: </b>Friday, 18 February 2022 at 15:17<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>At-Large Worldwide <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank" class="">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>[At-Large] Opera now lets you ditch boring web links and use emojis instead<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="">Hyperbole aside, wonder how (or if) emails could work - Dev Anand<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<a href="https://blogs.opera.com/news/2022/02/opera-emoji-links-yat/" target="_blank" class="">https://blogs.opera.com/news/2022/02/opera-emoji-links-yat/</a><br class="">
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"Are you ready to take emojis to the next level? How about using emojis for a website address? Our new partnership with Yat is helping make this dream come true, by integrating their emoji system into our browsers on Windows, Mac, Android and iOS, as well as
in the <a href="https://blogs.opera.com/crypto/2022/01/opera-crypto-browser-project-web3/" target="_blank" class="">
Opera Crypto Browser Project</a>. Long story short, you can now access emoji-only-based web addresses and register your unique strings of emojis as your personal domains.
<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="">With Opera as the <u class="">first browser to enable emoji-only based web addresses</u>, we’re bringing a new level of creativity to the internet, letting you navigate the web with strings of emojis as URLs, instead of letters and words.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="">This is a major shift in the way the internet works, and is sign of the changing times. Thirty-some years ago, the world wide web was first launched to the public, but not much has changed in regards to weblinks, and we still use .com in our URLs. Now though,
through this integration with Yat, all you Opera fans can ditch .com, or even words in general, and make your way to websites using emojis. It’s new, it’s easier and certainly a lot more fun.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="">The emojification of Opera is thanks to <a href="https://emojis.y.at/" target="_blank" class="">Yat</a>, the company that allows you to own personalized strings of emojis. The emoji-centric integration lets you easily find yat pages—unique domains that are generated when you create
a yat from a personalized string of emojis...."<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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