[At-Large] ICANN75: Selecting Malaysia and inclusiveness

Sun Jul 31 18:26:15 UTC 2022

True Laura, Absolutely true. Not only Montreal, The Hague also, the Chair of AFRALO couldn’t make it because of visa issue.

In London, we had an At-Large Summit, and a lot of our ALS representatives were absent also because of visa issue.

In the ICANN Meeting Strategy Working Group, the visa problem was my main focus: I proposed that ICANN shouldn’t hold a meeting in a country that doesn’t give visa to all our participants. I was told that if ICANN apply this rule, we won’t be able to hold meeting because each country has its restrictions and there is no country without access restrictions.

Tijani

De : At-Large <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> au nom de Laura Margolis via At-Large <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Répondre à : Laura Margolis <margolisl at gmail.com>
Date : dimanche 31 juillet 2022 à 18:28
À : Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
Cc : At Large <At-Large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Objet : Re: [At-Large] ICANN75: Selecting Malaysia and inclusiveness

Yes, true about locations, not always easy for everyone. I remember last meeting in Montreal many people had lots of issues with visas and couldn't finally arrive.

Best,

Laura Margolis

El dom, 31 jul 2022 a las 11:13, Glenn McKnight via At-Large (<at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>) escribió:

Interesting point made by Hank on the fact ICANN selected Malaysia.  The selection process for ICANN meetings clearly needs to be assessed.  This is also a country with anti-homosexual policies   See  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Malaysia

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On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 at 03:03, Hank Nussbacher via At-Large <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:

On 22/07/2022 20:35, Roberto Gaetano via At-Large wrote:

I think you should all be grateful that you can attend ICANN 75.  To 
quote from:
https://www.icann.org/diversity-en
"To live up to this responsibility, ICANN is committed to promoting 
greater diversity and supporting broad, inclusive participation in its 
processes."

The upcoming ICANN 75 meeting takes place in Kuala Lumpur .  Quoting 
from the Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Malaysia_relations
"Malaysian passports bear the inscription: "This passport is valid for 
all countries except Israel". Israeli passport holders are forbidden to 
enter Malaysia without written permission from the Malaysian Ministry of 
Home Affairs."

One can of course claim that travel restrictions have been eased 
recently as per:
https://visalist.io/malaysia/visa-requirements/israel
which requires 9 documents and an appearance at the Malaysian embassy - 
closest of which is in Jordan.

How does ICANN live up to its commitment to "inclusiveness" if it 
selects a country that forbids the participation of Israel (or makes it 
close to impossible to get a visa)?

Regards,
Hank Nussbacher

Caveat: The views expressed above are solely my own and do not express 
the views or opinions of my employer

> Hi Bill
>
> Not radical, but with some imaginative clauses that sound weird to the 
> ears of somebody that is not a lawyer and does not live in a country 
> that is particularly inclined to solve matters in courts.
>
> Here is an example that, if taken seriously, would oblige me to ask 
> some questions:
>
>     /This Liability Waiver and Release is specifically binding upon my
>     heirs and assigns and is knowingly given./
>
>
> Do I need to ask my (hopefully future) heirs to also sign the waiver? 
> And if they don’t want, or even produce an official document, signed 
> in the hands of a notary or other official authority, that they 
> specifically do not acknowledge the obligation of being obliged to 
> comply with this clause - maybe saying that they formally recommended 
> that I take this trip, what would happen? How can ICANN enforce this 
> clause in my jurisdiction - actually, in the jurisdiction of my heirs 
> - in front of a formal statement of them prior to the fact? And if I 
> attach this document of my heirs to my application, what would ICANN 
> do? Reject my registration because one of the clauses of the waiver is 
> not enforceable?
>
> This is one more reason for loving the ICANN community, never a dull 
> moment and a lot of fun :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Roberto
>
>
>
>> On 22.07.2022, at 18:18, Bill Jouris via At-Large 
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>> As such things go, this isn't a particularly radical waiver.  A bit 
>> wordier than average, but nothing novel in substance.
>>
>> Bill Jouris
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