[At-Large] ICANN75: Selecting Malaysia and inclusiveness

Laura Margolis margolisl at gmail.com
Sun Jul 31 17:28:43 UTC 2022


Yes, true about locations, not always easy for everyone. I remember last
meeting in Montreal many people had lots of issues with visas and couldn't
finally arrive.

Best,

Laura Margolis



El dom, 31 jul 2022 a las 11:13, Glenn McKnight via At-Large (<
at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>) escribió:

> Interesting point made by Hank on the fact ICANN selected Malaysia.  The
> selection process for ICANN meetings clearly needs to be assessed.  This is
> also a country with anti-homosexual policies   See
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Malaysia
>
> Glenn McKnight, MA
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> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 at 03:03, Hank Nussbacher via At-Large <
> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>
>> On 22/07/2022 20:35, Roberto Gaetano via At-Large wrote:
>>
>> I think you should all be grateful that you can attend ICANN 75.  To
>> quote from:
>> https://www.icann.org/diversity-en
>> "To live up to this responsibility, ICANN is committed to promoting
>> greater diversity and supporting broad, inclusive participation in its
>> processes."
>>
>> The upcoming ICANN 75 meeting takes place in Kuala Lumpur .  Quoting
>> from the Wikipedia page:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Malaysia_relations
>> "Malaysian passports bear the inscription: "This passport is valid for
>> all countries except Israel". Israeli passport holders are forbidden to
>> enter Malaysia without written permission from the Malaysian Ministry of
>> Home Affairs."
>>
>> One can of course claim that travel restrictions have been eased
>> recently as per:
>> https://visalist.io/malaysia/visa-requirements/israel
>> which requires 9 documents and an appearance at the Malaysian embassy -
>> closest of which is in Jordan.
>>
>> How does ICANN live up to its commitment to "inclusiveness" if it
>> selects a country that forbids the participation of Israel (or makes it
>> close to impossible to get a visa)?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hank Nussbacher
>>
>> Caveat: The views expressed above are solely my own and do not express
>> the views or opinions of my employer
>>
>> > Hi Bill
>> >
>> > Not radical, but with some imaginative clauses that sound weird to the
>> > ears of somebody that is not a lawyer and does not live in a country
>> > that is particularly inclined to solve matters in courts.
>> >
>> > Here is an example that, if taken seriously, would oblige me to ask
>> > some questions:
>> >
>> >     /This Liability Waiver and Release is specifically binding upon my
>> >     heirs and assigns and is knowingly given./
>> >
>> >
>> > Do I need to ask my (hopefully future) heirs to also sign the waiver?
>> > And if they don’t want, or even produce an official document, signed
>> > in the hands of a notary or other official authority, that they
>> > specifically do not acknowledge the obligation of being obliged to
>> > comply with this clause - maybe saying that they formally recommended
>> > that I take this trip, what would happen? How can ICANN enforce this
>> > clause in my jurisdiction - actually, in the jurisdiction of my heirs
>> > - in front of a formal statement of them prior to the fact? And if I
>> > attach this document of my heirs to my application, what would ICANN
>> > do? Reject my registration because one of the clauses of the waiver is
>> > not enforceable?
>> >
>> > This is one more reason for loving the ICANN community, never a dull
>> > moment and a lot of fun :-)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Roberto
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 22.07.2022, at 18:18, Bill Jouris via At-Large
>> >> <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> As such things go, this isn't a particularly radical waiver.  A bit
>> >> wordier than average, but nothing novel in substance.
>> >>
>> >> Bill Jouris
>> >>
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