[At-Large] Voting seat for CEO Was: Re: ICANN75: Mandatory Funded Traveler Registration for Roberto Gaetano

[Alan Greenberg]

Roberto, the excuse of it being in the CEO 
contract is twaddle! If that was accepted by 
Board members, it is shameful. If the change is 
warranted (and good) - as I believe it was and 
is, even if the contract was inviolate, the 
Bylaws could be written with a transition clause 
saying it applied to future CEOs.

Alan

At 2022-07-27 05:41 AM, Roberto Gaetano via At-Large wrote:

>Karl,
>
>Following on your “off-topic” (I changed the 
>subject line) I wold like to add a bit of history.
>
>You wrote:
>>
>>A lot of our BWG proposals are still quite 
>>relevant, for instance, not putting the 
>>President/CEO into a seat on the board of directors 
.>
>
>When I was chairing the Board Review WG, I 
>argued against having the CEO as a voting member 
>rather than ex-officio observer. Besides any 
>governance model, having to vote on issues that 
>he would have been called to execute could put 
>the CEO in an embarrassing position: what if he 
>voted against, and the motion passed? This was, 
>IMHO, not just a theoretical exercise, but 
>something that could really happen on 
>politically sensitive issues, like the .xxx 
>delegation (in that case, Paul abstained, and 
>the application was rejected by one or two votes).
>
>My approach was considered, but the Chair argued 
>that for the current CEO the provision was built 
>in the contract, and could not be changed, but 
>this would have been taken into account for the 
>next CEO. Then I left the Board, and lost track 
>of the later events, but it looks that the situation still remains unchanged.
>
>Cheers,
>Roberto
>
>
>
>
>>On 26.07.2022, at 21:39, Karl Auerbach via 
>>At-Large 
>><<mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> 
>>wrote:
>>
>>I'm going to be somewhat diverging from the main topic....
>>On 7/26/22 8:14 AM, Marita Moll wrote:
>>>
>>>And so it is with ICANN. It exists -- a unique 
>>>multistakeholder governance system. Lots of 
>>>things wrong with it. But it exists. So, for 
>>>those who want to, they can keep working at 
>>>it, keep looking for improvement, keep challenging the system.
>>
>>I've long been in opposition to the 
>>"stakeholder" model of governance.  I was 
>>horrified when I first saw it just after Jon 
>>Postel died, and became more horrified watching 
>>Joe Sims of Jones Day ramming it down our 
>>collective throats.  In the Boston Working 
>>Group proposal for "NewCo" we tried to mitigate some of the worst aspects.
>>
>>See 
>><https://cavebear.com/archive/bwg/>https://cavebear.com/archive/bwg/ 
>>for the Boston Working Group proposals.
>>
>>A lot of our BWG proposals are still quite 
>>relevant, for instance, not putting the 
>>President/CEO into a seat on the board of 
>>directors and moving some ICANN powers into the 
>>Articles of Incorporation and requiring 
>>exercise of those powers to be approved by more 
>>than merely the board (in those days that 
>>larger body could have been "the members" but 
>>ICANN sank that ship long ago - but it can be, and ought to be, re-floated.)
>>
>>My most recent piece in opposition to 
>>stakeholder based systems may be found here:
>>
>>Democracy Versus Stakeholderism - 
>><https://www.cavebear.com/cavebear-blog/stakeholder_sock_puppet/>https://www.cavebear.com/cavebear-blog/stakeholder_sock_puppet/
>>
>>             --karl--
>>
>>
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