[At-Large] Ukraine, .RU, and internet governance

Roberto Gaetano roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com
Sat Mar 12 08:59:13 UTC 2022

Unfortunately, it is not an international law issue, otherwise it would be solved without any responsibility by ICANN - just follow the order of the judge.

The problem lies elsewhere, and is whether ICANN is or not an independent authority that can be trusted for following basic principles and apply them evenly in all cases.

If ICANN decides to remove .ru from the root, based on a request by Ukraine (who, by the way, is no longer insisting in asking this, maybe because they have understood the unintended consequences) I don’t see how it could resist the request of removing the ccTLDs of what the US consider “rogue” countries, like Iran, Cuba, and others.

And this besides all what has been said at length in this and other lists, like that it will not make .ru disappear, just invite operators to have their own copy of the root.

This said, there are other actions that ICANN can take, but after having decided whether it will keep its reputation of being a reliable steward for the Internet infrastructure in the global interest or indulge in actions that, while not achieving any practical result, will be emotionally satisfying.


On 12.03.2022, at 04:55, SCHWEIGHOFER Erich Prof. Dr. Dr.. via At-Large <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> wrote:

It is an international law issue and the main text for conflicts and sovereignty is the UN Charta and its practice.
In law, using the right text is decisive.
Erich Schweighofer

Am 12.03.2022 04:36 schrieb Antony Van Couvering via At-Large <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>:
The mealy-mouthed opposition to Ukraine’s request to block .RU has exercised me so much that I called up Keith Teare to complain.  Keith is a one-time candidate for ICANN CEO, a former board member of Minds + Machines, founder of Real Names and other companies, and a very smart guy with a good grasp of history and the internet.

Keith doesn’t really agree with my position, so he suggested that we record a conversation and talk it out.  To me, it turned out well (pardon my video quality.

For those who’d like to hear a thorough discussion of the issue, here it is:


Summary — all the reasons put forward as to why ICANN can’t do anything — we go through them all — are bullshit.

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