[At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05

Alejandro Pisanty apisanty at gmail.com
Wed May 12 20:00:46 UTC 2021


There's a menu:

Known knowns
Unknown knowns
Known unknowns
Unknown unknowns.

This list can be pared to half size pretty easily once one has a
well-identified problem to solve.  Or shorter, if one doesn't.

+1 to Roberto.

Alejandro Pisanty

On Wed, May 12, 2021, 14:47 Jonathan Zuck via At-Large <
at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:

> Thanks Marita. At some point, down the road, we'll need help a survey firm
> identify the "population," from which to draw a random sample to survey.
> This will be guided by the kind of questions we want to ask so THAT is the
> first task. What would we like to hear from individual users on?
>
> Jonathan Zuck
> Executive Director
> Innovators Network Foundation
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> *From:* At-Large <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of
> Marita Moll via At-Large <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2021 3:23:22 PM
> *To:* Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>; Vanda Scartezini <
> vanda at scartezini.org>
> *Cc:* Greg Shatan <greg at isoc-ny.org>; ICANN At-Large list <
> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05
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>
> The Canadian Internet Registration Authority (CIRA)  which operates the
> .ca domain name does occasional outreach exercises to calibrate their
> community investment program. The link below goes to such a recent survey
> which went out to  recipients of this grant. The description of this survey
> group come pretty close to the end users we are looking for. Maybe we could
> take some guidance from this:
>
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> https://www.cira.ca/resources/state-internet/report/gap-between-us-perspectives-building-a-better-online-canada
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> In January and February 2018, CIRA reached out to organizations across
> Canada through a survey, phone interviews and video interviews to help
> identify key issues, needs and funding gaps with respect to internet
> infrastructure, digital access, digital literacy and funding gaps. In
> particular, CIRA sought out grassroots organizations and individuals
> working in and around Canada’s internet, including not-for-profits,
> charities, academics and small internet service providers. The survey CIRA
> shared with organizations in Canada sought to learn more about their
> perspectives, experiences and challenges. Follow-up interviews were
> conducted with some participants.
>
> Marita
>
>
> On 5/12/2021 2:34 PM, Evan Leibovitch via At-Large wrote:
>
>
> I really, REALLY, encourage people to read the actual funding request
> before seeing the word "poll" and "At-Large" together and jumping to
> conclusions.
>
> The request is *NOT* for a survey of RALOs or ALSs or anyone else in the
> existing ICANN community. This request is for a form of R&D never before
> done by ALAC.
>
> It is explicitly designed to avoid the usual channels that have already
> been done, and to talk to the rest of the world outside the ICANN bubble --
> the end-users that ALAC is bylaw-bound to speak for. We need to hear from
> people who have never even heard the terms "ICANN" or "DNS" or "Internet
> domain" -- let alone know what they are -- yet are deeply impacted by what
> goes on here. We don't need them to join an ALS or even care about ICANN,
> but we do need to know their opinions of how DNS policies and practises
> affect their use and trust of the Internet.
>
> The funding request identifies the flaws in surveys that have been done to
> date, and ideally would ask questions of random samples of people
> *everywhere*.
>
> In these cases the cost of the survey is very much determined by how
> spread it is. Given the amount of the funding at play we can't come close
> to "everywhere" so we need to work on what limited (but still random) scope
> will best provide useful analysis.
>
> If anyone here is aware of any studies such as Vanda suggests that could
> help this effort, now is the time to identify them.
>
> Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada
> @evanleibovitch / @el56
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> On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 12:49, Vanda Scartezini via At-Large <
> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
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> Thanking to Leon to embrace such effort, I am the one encouraging this
> survey in all regions, worldwide survey. The cost of survey is not how
> spread it is, regional or universal to collect the data, but to build the
> right questions, analyze the answers and then present the statistically
> relevant data with a large annex with the methodology used for such
> analysis.
>
> And yes, depending on the data there are several studies we could use, or
> even just comparing with data we collect.
>
> Ralos can be used to spread the survey inside their regions.
>
> Hope we can do such survey.
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> *Vanda Scartezini*
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> *From: *At-Large <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of
> 'At-Large Worldwide' <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> *Reply-To: *León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>
> *Date: *Wednesday, May 12, 2021 at 13:21
> *To: *Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>
> *Cc: *Greg Shatan <greg at isoc-ny.org>, 'At-Large Worldwide' <
> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05
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> Thanks Evan. Just confirming that I am following the discussion and that
> the project will have my support. I will try to encourage other Board
> colleagues to do the same.
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> Kind regards,
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> León
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> El 11 may 2021, a las 10:05, Evan Leibovitch via At-Large <
> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> escribió:
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> Does a global survey is more expensive in terms of bandwidth costs than a
> regional pilot?
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> Really?
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> Is "Does it cost more to do a global survey than a regional one?" a useful
> question?
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> I would especially like to hear from those who helped support Jonathan in
> identifying the problem and making the original request. Responding that we
> need to have a strategic approach to determining what we want to learn from
> this effort, and then conducting the research based on that strategy, is
> rather stating the obvious at this point.
>
>
>
> The proposal is not final; it still needs to be approved by the Board. I
> encourage Leon and Avri to support, and even advocate this when it comes on
> their agenda. IMO this proposal is more than just a funded project; its
> approval would be an unprecedented level of confidence in At-Large's
> ability to engage in its own research, ask its own questions, and perform
> its own analysis. Personally I have always felt that this is the only form
> of "outreach" that actually helps ALAC to perform its bylaw mandate. If
> granted it will be vital to deliver something useful, even if limited in
> scope to accommodate the resources available.
>
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> To everyone who is interested in contributing meaningfully to this effort
> -- assuming it is approved -- please start giving some thought to the
> strategy of what we want from this. Once there is consensus on that I think
> the questions will flow naturally.
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>
>
> Also consider that, depending on what we want from this effort, some of
> the raw research may already exist and be available for purchase. We're not
> the only ones who want to know the utility, safety and reliability of
> methods of how the public finds content and services on the Internet.
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> - Evan
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