[At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05

Seun Ojedeji seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
Thu May 6 19:20:01 UTC 2021


I like to add a +1 to this comment of Alejandro.

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Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Thu, 6 May 2021, 05:37 Alejandro Pisanty via At-Large, <
at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:

> Don't focus on the nature of the survey (self-selected or otherwise) nor
> anything else (need for a firm etc.) - before wasting anybody's time and
> energy, start with a question whose answer is not yet known and is relevant
> to a decision to be made. So, what is the decision that needs to be made?
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 10:11 PM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>
> wrote:
>
>> We really need to hire a survey firm to develop a worthwhile sample. We
>> shouldn't be attempting an end user survey with Survey Monkey where people
>> self select. We should only use Survey Monkey with people already in our
>> radar.
>>
>> Whether there is a well-defined question that can only be answered by
>> survey remains to be seen. That's the exercise here.
>>
>> Jonathan Zuck
>> Executive Director
>> Innovators Network Foundation
>> www.InnovatorsNetwork.org
>> Main: +1 (202) 827-7594
>> Direct: +1 (202) 420-7483
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 5, 2021 11:00:25 PM
>> *To:* Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>
>> *Cc:* Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>; ICANN At-Large list <
>> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> is there a well-defined question that cannot be answered except by a
>> survey?
>>
>> Is the budget there for the design of the survey, segmentation, etc.
>> before the first line of surveymonkey is written? What is the project? What
>> decision will be fed by the answer to the survey?
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 9:48 PM Jonathan Zuck via At-Large <
>> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>>
>> We probably start with the CCTRT surveys and see what areas might bear
>> further examination.
>>
>> Jonathan Zuck
>> Executive Director
>> Innovators Network Foundation
>> www.InnovatorsNetwork.org
>> Main: +1 (202) 827-7594
>> Direct: +1 (202) 420-7483
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:10:48 PM
>> *To:* Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>
>> *Cc:* Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>; ICANN At-Large list <
>> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>;
>> Joanna Kulesza <jkuleszaicann at gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05
>>
>> Thank you Jonathan..
>>
>> After ATLASIII I had hoped that we might have had enough interest and
>> capacity to establish a research group, but it never eventuated. I guess
>> because there wasn't anyone to drive them towards a particular purpose as
>> there is now.
>>
>> So what is it that you are particularly after so that we can gather some
>> ideas from  other like-minded individuals, about what is out there that
>> could be useful to us, if that's what we need to do.
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jonathan Zuck via At-Large <
>> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>>
>> We took.a shot and hoped for more, but its a start. We have to find a way
>> to make good use of it. We can't mount a worldwide survey with that much
>> and we SHOULD not do a stupid self selection survey. That leaves two
>> options: piggyback or pilot. Global surveys are historically rare but have
>> become more frequent with COVID. With $50k, we might get a few questions
>> added to something already being fielded. Alternatively,  we focus on a
>> particular geographic region and language and see if we can get valuable
>> enough data to get further funds. We'll definitely have to give it some
>> thought. Another committee.  Sigh.
>> Jonathan
>>
>> Jonathan Zuck
>> Executive Director
>> Innovators Network Foundation
>> www.InnovatorsNetwork.org
>> Main: +1 (202) 827-7594
>> Direct: +1 (202) 420-7483
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* At-Large <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of
>> Evan Leibovitch via At-Large <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 5, 2021 8:08:18 PM
>> *To:* Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>; ICANN At-Large list <
>> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> *Subject:* [At-Large] ICANN Funding Request FY22-05
>>
>> Regarding ICANN's allocation of resources in support of end-user polling
>> by and for ALAC
>> <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=151847258&preview=/151847258/164626907/FY22%20ABR%20Process_Assessment%20Report_FINAL.pdf>
>> :
>>
>> To Heidi who advanced this request
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/projfinadhocws/ALAC+-+FY22+Additional+Budget+Requests?preview=/151847210/158139112/FY22%20Community%20Request%20-%20Polling%5B1%5D.docx>
>> within ICANN, and to all who had a part of creating it, a heartfelt and
>> personal thank you.
>>
>> I am extremely heartened by the allocation of funds for survey-based
>> research to support and drive ALAC's ongoing work. Some of you may have
>> seen my participation in At-Large mailing lists complaining about the lack
>> of such resources, and now here they are. I have no idea whether my
>> contributions played any role in development of this formal request of
>> which I was not aware, but regardless I am sincerely appreciative of the
>> significant effort that I know has gone into creating and advancing the
>> request.
>>
>> So now is the time to deliver, now that the opportunity is at hand. I
>> have no idea what kind of sub-group and/or what ALAC support staff will be
>> tasked to turn this approval into a detailed plan; I am at the service of
>> whatever mechanism will be used. I hope to be useful to this process and
>> make a positive contribution for the first time in a long time.
>>
>> And, again, thank you to all involved.
>>
>> Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada
>> @evanleibovitch / @el56
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> Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
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