[At-Large] Fwd: Coping with active participation in At-Large during COVID-19

Patricia Akello ekisesta at gmail.com
Sat May 9 14:22:50 UTC 2020


Thanks Glenn,
Barack - Say no more! Am in total agreement With you. It’s a demonstration
of good leadership and acts like this are a demonstration of the “Ubuntu”
spirit - I am because we are.

It’s a tough situation but many thanks to all who have contributed and
supported a brother.

Regards
Esther Patricia Akello



On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 16:49, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
wrote:

> For the record  the funds  are not from ICANN
> G
> Glenn McKnight
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> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 9:46 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <
> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>
>> Dear Barrack,
>> Just so that I am clear. I TOTALLY agree with the point you made about
>> relationships and having concern for others. I have NO problem with this at
>> all. Relationships should transcend borders as you mentioned. I totally
>> agree with where she is coming from and share that view too. Please
>> don't get me wrong. I agree with helping. I would also do there same
>> however if I head a company/government and in the name of helping a friend
>> I give out money from the public purse to help a friend in distress then no
>> one should pity me when it is time to go to jail. Do you think anyone in
>> charge of ICANN's finances would at any point in time be able to justify
>> helping someone stranded in another country on a non-ICANN business?.  I am
>> not saying don't help am saying you can't push it to ICANN
>>
>> Let me list where I disagree so that I am very clear
>>
>> 1. Daniel's Name should not have been mentioned in the email to Leon. Iit
>> could have been a generic thing just as Glenn did in his mail. I believe
>> his privacy has been compromised. We all now know who is stranded and
>> where.
>> 2. It shouldn't have been used as an example to convince the board cos
>> clearly it would make them take an easy decision because I can't see how
>> you can convince your company to pay the hotel bills for a friend who came
>> on a private visit when you are not running a charity.  The main issue
>> should be about the general challenges, not individual challenges that way
>> an individual can benefit.
>> 3.  It should not appear as the new priority. The priority should be the
>> concerns the community has been rasing that never got to the next level.
>> I hope you understand my point.
>>
>> AK
>>
>> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:02 PM Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Abdulkarim,
>>>
>>> Permit me to weigh in on this matter. Having been involved in ICANN for
>>> a little over 10 years now i have come to appreciate the role of
>>> relationships and genuine concern for each others well being. This is what
>>> has kept me and many others going in this ecosystem for many years and i
>>> beleive this is where Maureen is coming from. I literaly drop everything i
>>> am doing whenever a member of this community is in town due to the
>>> relationships we have established which transcend borders. As a leader, i
>>> would do the same when one of my team members is in dire straits. We all
>>> have an idea of the letter and the spirit of the law or by laws. Whichever
>>> school of thought you align yourself with has impacts on the output of your
>>> team or any organization you may be leading. The issues that have been
>>> raised are suggestions and should be treated as such. In my opinion Maureen
>>> is right as a leader to bring to the fore an issue a member of her
>>> leadership team is facing. Being a diverse community, Daniels help might
>>> just be an email away. If we can't help him then let the matter rest.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 9 May 2020, 3:39 pm ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE, <
>>> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Maureen,
>>>>
>>>>  Your response has clearly brought out one of the three points that I
>>>> was trying to make. I never asked that the individual should not be
>>>> supported but I do not think it is right to prioritise one person at the
>>>> expense of the community.  Who would your leadership team serve if the
>>>> community is not there?.
>>>> I pointed out in the least paragraph of my email to you that the need
>>>> to support the community has been mentioned several times by different
>>>> people at different At-Large meetings but it was not taking to the next
>>>> level until Leon stepped in only for it now to be overshadowed by a
>>>> non-ICANN issue is one of my concerns. The board would make an easy
>>>> decision on this matter as it is clearly dominated by a non-ICANN and
>>>> private issue.
>>>>
>>>> Leadership role and general work within at-large is voluntary and if
>>>> you are concern about him "regardless of how he came about it". That should
>>>> not overshadow what is affecting most people within the community.  We need
>>>> to get our priorities right. I am sure you only found out about his case
>>>> yesterday because according to the records I just checked he has been
>>>> attending the meeting he chairs and other meetings including that of ATRT
>>>> 3. I am not trying to trivialise his issue in any way but  I decided to
>>>> respond because I smell a rat.
>>>>
>>>> I do not understand what you mean by  "unusual predicament" because we
>>>> are all in an "unusual predicament" of COVID 19. I also don't understand
>>>> why you mean by  "extreme bad luck" but a lot of other people are affected
>>>> by the "extreme bad luck" and USA has handled the COVID situation far
>>>> better than a lot of other countries. I can give numerous example. some
>>>> don't even have the test kit to test talk less of detection.
>>>>
>>>> It is not about me helping or not. Like you rightly said it is
>>>> voluntary. Doing what is important to us as leaders mean we should be fair,
>>>> listen and look after the community, not just one person we find loyal to
>>>> us.
>>>>
>>>> AK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 6:13 AM Maureen Hilyard <
>>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Abdulkarim
>>>>>
>>>>> While I agree with you that there are surely situations similar to
>>>>> that of Daniel within At-Large, many do not have the same level of
>>>>> responsibility to the work of At-Large as he does. As one of my leadership
>>>>> team, I am concerned about his circumstances, regardless of how he came
>>>>> upon them.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was his concern for his ability to meet his obligations to his
>>>>> leadership role which caused me to mention his unusual predicament. I only
>>>>> found out about where he was and his situation yesterday. Even when he
>>>>> should be thinking about himself, he was informing me as to why he might
>>>>> not be able to fulfil his obligations to the O&E team for an unknown
>>>>> timeframe.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was extreme bad luck that he was not able to leave the country at
>>>>> the conclusion of the leadership event, especially in a country that I
>>>>> believe has very poorly managed its covid situation. I sympathise with
>>>>> anyone who ever finds themselves in a situation such as this. If there is
>>>>> any way that our community can help relieve Daniel's situation until his
>>>>> country's embassy can assist his return to Uganda,  then Im happy to do my
>>>>> bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> We cant do this for everyone, but for someone like Daniel who has
>>>>> volunteered a lot of personal time towards work within At-Large as well as
>>>>> in cross-community activities for several years,  he deserves my support
>>>>> even if in this small way, and gratefully with the support of other
>>>>> like-minded people.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you would like to help too, that is fine. If not, then that is fine
>>>>> as well. We all do what is important to us and as much or as little as we
>>>>> can. The same will have to go for our work within ICANN.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards and keep well
>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 8 May 2020, 1:36 pm ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE, <
>>>>> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Maureen,
>>>>>> I greatly sympathise with Daniel on this issue you shared and I
>>>>>> totally agree with your approach of setting up a welfare team and the
>>>>>> Gofundme. However, I do not understand why you decided to include it in
>>>>>> your email to Leon. His travel is clearly not related to the challenges
>>>>>> being faced by the community as a result of having what should have been a
>>>>>> face to face meeting going online. Your email was saying you removed a
>>>>>> message cos it is not ICANN related but yet it included an issue which is
>>>>>> clearly not ICANN related. The unrelated issue you raised has clearly
>>>>>> overshadowed the other critical issue. In fact, it took the most
>>>>>> significant part of the mail. What was supposed to be the main point in the
>>>>>> mail is now being relegated to paragraph 3.  In as much as I sympathise
>>>>>> with Daniel, I do not see the reason why a private issue was now explicitly
>>>>>> discussed in an email to Leon and the community. There are lots of people
>>>>>> around the world in a similar situation and I can't understand and I don't
>>>>>> clearly want to guess why you are making Daniel's case look worse than it
>>>>>> is or as an example for the mailing list. I have lots of friends and even
>>>>>> family members stranded as a result of the unexpected shutdown.  We all
>>>>>> faced challenges in our private lives or because of the unexpected shut
>>>>>> down of the world and I believe this should remain private except if ICANN
>>>>>> is now a social club.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also agree with Remmy Nweke that RALO leaders should also take
>>>>>> up the issues relating to challenges the community is facing in regards to
>>>>>> having an online meeting.  This is because they are closer to the community
>>>>>> and It took Leon to raise it specifically before it became a serious issue
>>>>>> for the ALAC when clearly we should not have waited this long. It has been
>>>>>> raised by several people before now but we didn't seams to listen or take
>>>>>> it seriously.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 6:49 PM Maureen Hilyard <
>>>>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Leon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is the discussion that arose out of the request from the ALAC
>>>>>>> meeting. I am so grateful that the community restricted their comments to
>>>>>>> those that were most thoughtful and considerate of ICANN's situation while
>>>>>>> also taking into account some of the hardship issues experienced by our
>>>>>>> volunteers at this time.  I forward all the emails received on the topic (I
>>>>>>> had one instance where the email was on another topic and once revealed,
>>>>>>> the sender asked for it to be removed).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One case which only very recently came to my attention was Daniel
>>>>>>> Nanghaka who was in the US attending an AMEX Leadership course in
>>>>>>> Washington DC when the flights out of US were grounded and he could not
>>>>>>> return to Uganda. He has been staying with friends in Massachusetts but
>>>>>>> living very frugally on his limited resources. Even though he has tried,
>>>>>>> his contacts with the Uganda Embassy in Washington DC have not been
>>>>>>> responded to (as of yesterday) and neither has AMEX been of any real
>>>>>>> assistance to his plight. I have suggested that he persist and if possible
>>>>>>> return to Washington DC to get his government's support directly.
>>>>>>> Fortunately he is still within scope of his current visa, but who knows how
>>>>>>> long will he have to remain in a foreign country without any resources?
>>>>>>> Daniel hadn't raised his situation with us because his reason for being
>>>>>>> there was not directly related to ICANN, except that *he is worried
>>>>>>> *that he may not be able to participate in his meetings because
>>>>>>> internet connection is expensive and it is draining what little resources
>>>>>>> he has at the moment, even to take his own O&E meetings. This is an extreme
>>>>>>> case but a real live situation for one of our leadership team.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The cost of internet and the loss of jobs especially for those in
>>>>>>> developing countries will make ICANN's work of less priority, especially
>>>>>>> when they have to worry more about how to feed and care for their families
>>>>>>> in situations where the pandemic is still rabid, and it is the impoverished
>>>>>>> areas that are being hardest hit. While I know that ICANN cannot save the
>>>>>>> world, it saddens me to know what some of our hardest-working volunteers
>>>>>>> are experiencing in their real worlds... and yet at the same time there is
>>>>>>> still a flow of even more meetings than before, even within At-Large, with
>>>>>>> an expectation of more volunteer input into issues that ICANN has to
>>>>>>> resolve. All I can say is that the longer this situation exists, the
>>>>>>> greater the chance of those voices that we have been working really hard to
>>>>>>> encourage to join our discussions, will disappear and our multistakeholder
>>>>>>> model will be truly lost. But what can ICANN do and what more can we do as
>>>>>>> volunteers who are already stretched within our own bubbles just to keep
>>>>>>> ourselves safe? This is our dilemma.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forwarded Conversation
>>>>>>> Subject: Coping with active participation in At-Large during COVID-19
>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:58 AM
>>>>>>> To: At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear At-Large Community
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In all our recent ICANN meetings, the Board and the senior staff
>>>>>>> have been very mindful of the difficulties that are being experienced by
>>>>>>> the volunteer community of At-Large during this pandemic and its impact on
>>>>>>> their ability to participate as regularly as they used to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> During his intervention in the ALAC meeting on  28 April, the
>>>>>>> At-Large appointed Board member, Leon Sanchez, raised his ongoing concerns
>>>>>>> and asked the 70+ participants at the meeting how ICANN might be able to
>>>>>>> help volunteers to continue with their active involvement in the work of
>>>>>>> At-Large and contributing to the bigger picture work of ICANN.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because he has requested practical and constructive suggestions
>>>>>>> about how ICANN may be able to assist, I am putting this message out to
>>>>>>> those who also already attend online meetings and actively participate and
>>>>>>> engage, even under really trying personal circumstances. I am willing to
>>>>>>> pass on your suggestions to Leon, who will in turn take these to the Board
>>>>>>> for their consideration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Please respond only to this thread* before 7 May, so that the full
>>>>>>> account can be passed on to Leon.  I look forward to your thoughtful
>>>>>>> contributions to this matter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>>> ALAC Chair
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>> From: Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:22 AM
>>>>>>> To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks  Maureen
>>>>>>> As  you know this is an issue I brought up in the ALT PLUS call a
>>>>>>> week before the ZOOM call this week  with Leon, at that time I interfaced
>>>>>>> with Leon on the dire straits that some people are facing during this
>>>>>>> pandemic situation and that many folks are unwilling to step forward and
>>>>>>> publicly  come to the table with a "cap in their hands"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are facing a 4% drop in the world economy and this means a
>>>>>>> depression much worse than the Great Depression.   Also this Covid-19 may
>>>>>>> see a serious second and third wave resulting in many more deaths and
>>>>>>> economic disruption.  ( shades of the 1918 pandemic that killed 100
>>>>>>> million)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would surmise that  we have in the ATLARGE community that many
>>>>>>> folks are unemployed or underemployed and facing tough times and seriously
>>>>>>> compounded in countries that don't have any safety net to protect them and
>>>>>>> help them over the difficult times.  Since charity starts at home I suggest
>>>>>>> ICANN  dig into its pockets as  ISOC and Mozilla and many others and come
>>>>>>> up with a financial assistance to those that could really appreciate the
>>>>>>> support.   I suggest that  the  stipend for the ICANN Meetings to be paid
>>>>>>> to the ATLARGE members which will cover their internet costs and food costs
>>>>>>> as they fully participate with the remote meetings.    In the cases where
>>>>>>> people don't want or need this financial support they can simple not apply
>>>>>>> for the stipend and the financial costs would be reduced.  It should be
>>>>>>> confidential and an optional application process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a recent survey of Atlarge members we found a large number of
>>>>>>> African and small island states with very poor internet access and very
>>>>>>> high costs for their access to the Internet.  This produces a digital
>>>>>>> divide that needs to be recognized and if not addressed  we may loose more
>>>>>>> members from the community.  As recommendations to join more online
>>>>>>> meetings and join ICANN LEARN webinars its an assumption that  we all have
>>>>>>> fair and equal access  and this inequality is enhanced with more reliance
>>>>>>> on remote participation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glenn McKnight
>>>>>>> ICANN NOMCOM 2019-2021
>>>>>>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>>>>>>> Curator for  Internet Governance Hub Blog
>>>>>>> www.internetgovernancehub.blog
>>>>>>> <http://www.internetgovernancehub.blog>
>>>>>>> http://toronto.ieee.ca/
>>>>>>> IEEE Toronto SIGHT Chair
>>>>>>> glenn.mcknight at ieee.org
>>>>>>> skype  gmcknight
>>>>>>> twitter @Inkmedia
>>>>>>> 289-830 6259
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:20 AM
>>>>>>> To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Maureen,
>>>>>>> This is very thoughtful both of ICANN, ALAC and Leon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For me, the best possible way to encourage participation should have
>>>>>>> been:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. To have data palliative, but it looks cumbersome from ICANN end
>>>>>>> down to the local service providers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. An alternative is to have an aggregated sum approved for e.g. 4
>>>>>>> months = USD600; to be given to participants to cushion their data effect
>>>>>>> paid directly to them (both mobile device and laptop). Thereby easing off
>>>>>>> at ICANN end and also encouraging participant to optimise the resource to
>>>>>>> their most essential needs including more data, because some may have
>>>>>>> purchased data ahead, say two months in a row.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope this helps.
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>>>>>>> From: <carlosraul at gutierrez.se>
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:44 AM
>>>>>>> To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Maureen and Léon !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. We in LACRALO have already adapted our meeting hours to avoid
>>>>>>> conflicts with working hours as far as possible. Thanks to our Brazilian
>>>>>>> and Uruguayan friends that's stay up late, the westerners in Mexico in
>>>>>>> Costa Rica have meeting only after 4pm or so.
>>>>>>> REQUEST;
>>>>>>> 1. Can't we do choose two convenient blocks of time over the day so
>>>>>>> that's global meetings only happen outside of sleeping hours?
>>>>>>> 2. Can we start using those blocks of time ASAP
>>>>>>> 3. Can we keep those Blocks for the Kuala Lumpur virtual meeting
>>>>>>> instead of the local time there?
>>>>>>> 4. If all of the above is not possible: can we spread the Kuala
>>>>>>> Lumpur meeting into 2-3 power weekend meetings online?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seriously, if we are going to spend the next few months on virtual
>>>>>>> meetings, it makes no sense to use the planning frameworks and time blocks
>>>>>>> of Face to Face meetings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks! Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>> From: Vanda Scartezini <vanda at scartezini.org>
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 12:06 PM
>>>>>>> To: Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>, Maureen Hilyard <
>>>>>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear  Glenn  and Maureen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These thoughts are really relevant when we can see in developing
>>>>>>> region several medium class persons are struggled to feed their families
>>>>>>> without work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here, as developing country,  the government is performing a quite
>>>>>>> complex operation,  providing a 120 – 240 ( widows with children)
>>>>>>>  correspondent USD to 56 millions  ( ¼ of our population) of persons and
>>>>>>> had open up a 26 million of a special bank account to those not having one
>>>>>>>  in the public bank, and will pay such amount during 3 months or even
>>>>>>> longer depend upon the winter ( even mild one here) season. The amount
>>>>>>>  represents what  we call basic basket with food and cleaner and hygienic
>>>>>>> items for one month of a family of 4. The basic mobile are reduced  and
>>>>>>> energy are sponsored  for  those families.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Helping people to attend our meetings on line in places where they
>>>>>>> need to spend too much special nowadays  paying internet or even 3G for a
>>>>>>> volunteer activity,  does not see  will break ICANN’s finances and
>>>>>>> certainly will help a lot to keep these relevant community with us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for these relevant proposal that I do believe really help the
>>>>>>> engagement of our community.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can also help to state who,  in our regions, is really in need of
>>>>>>> help. Some even to feed their families.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kisses and take care
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Vanda Scartezini*
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>> From: Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, May 2, 2020 at 4:28 AM
>>>>>>> To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is the draft response from* NARALO* . Note we are still
>>>>>>> working out the logistics of the ideas  and its not final .  I am sharing
>>>>>>> it for inspiration purpose.
>>>>>>> The  bold and italic comments are excerpts from ICANN's comments
>>>>>>> direct from the ICANN page
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-_IO9vxnl2AUyrPE2zcL19UjyDPbl5DQHTLvWxX1q6Q/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Supporting the Work of Our Global Community over the Next Few
>>>>>>> Months: Leveraging Remote Participation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Link to document
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.icann.org/news/blog/supporting-the-work-of-our-global-community-over-the-next-few-months-leveraging-remote-participation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Facts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    All ICANN Face to Face meetings on hold to Sept 2020
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reality
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    The Pandemic will likely be worse in the fall according to the
>>>>>>>    CDC comments and likely it will be into 2021. (1)  and resulting
>>>>>>>    in no  Face to Face meetings during that year
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Item One:  Remote Participation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ICANN has always embraced remote participation. It is what makes our
>>>>>>> work accessible to a global community and enables us to get the work done
>>>>>>> between meetings. COVID-19 has made remote engagement even more crucial,
>>>>>>> and a very real and practical alternative
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Comment
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a practical solution to keep the community engaged but the
>>>>>>> devil is in the details.  We have a serious digital divide which impacts
>>>>>>> the ATLARGE community.  Since ICANN has  Multistakeholderism baked into its
>>>>>>> DNA it is critical to provide communities with the tools to properly
>>>>>>> engage.   In Canada, especially in the far- north, in the US  tribal lands,
>>>>>>> as well as in rural areas(2), among students(3)  and in poor urban
>>>>>>> communities(4) there is a serious digital divide that makes it next
>>>>>>> to impossible to participate fully in the meetings. In fact, if there are
>>>>>>> few participants in such areas, it is not because they don’t want to
>>>>>>> participate. They simply cannot participate unless their internet
>>>>>>> accessibility issues are addressed. Although ICANN cannot be responsible
>>>>>>> for all digital divide issues, it must recognize that these exist and
>>>>>>> perhaps look for alternative ways to deal with these -- create support
>>>>>>> groups, reach out locally with low tech methods, build partnerships with
>>>>>>> national, regional, and local organizations, etc..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Item Two;  Leverage Participation Tools
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is more important than ever that we leverage our remote
>>>>>>> participation tools to continue effectively engaging and supporting our
>>>>>>> community in the work that needs to be done; at the very least, over the
>>>>>>> next four months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Comments
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is not just a matter of online tools ie. Zoom,  Adobe, Bluejean
>>>>>>> etc or accessibility issues, but about the bandwidth required by any or all
>>>>>>> of them. Moreover, many within At Large have uneven connectivity speeds and
>>>>>>> others are burdened with very high Internet costs and extremely slow
>>>>>>> speeds. This combined with the loss of income by many of the participants
>>>>>>> due to COVID-19  making it harder for them to pay for the extra data needed
>>>>>>> to participate in the At Large or other ICANN related calls.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Item  Three   Online Courses/ Webinars
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are working with the community to ensure that high-priority
>>>>>>> topics for this period are being addressed and are creating new
>>>>>>> opportunities and training for our stakeholders within At Large to
>>>>>>> participate. As such, we are looking at facilitating these efforts and
>>>>>>> adding a variety of additional activities to build capacity, to attract new
>>>>>>> participants, and to educate, and engage these new participants. These
>>>>>>> activities will include informative webinars, ICANN Learn modules,
>>>>>>> lectures, and ICANN Public Meeting readouts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, this strategy of engagement is only possible where
>>>>>>> high-speed Internet access is available and the end-user has the funds to
>>>>>>> pay for the extra service.  We would be interested in learning about any
>>>>>>> surveys that ICANN LEARN staff have done on connectivity challenges of
>>>>>>> end-users.  A recent informal ATLARGE survey, although having only twenty
>>>>>>> responses, shows that participants in developing countries have limited
>>>>>>> bandwidth especially in many parts of Africa and small island states
>>>>>>> combined with high Internet costs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> General View
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the short run, the participation in the first virtual meeting
>>>>>>> (Cancun) while having very high participation, should be looked at as a
>>>>>>> novelty, this will not be the new norm. We do expect that participation in
>>>>>>> future meetings will drop until the economy gets back on track.
>>>>>>> Participants do not have the available income to spend on the access needed
>>>>>>> to actively participate in online meetings. We are at a serious risk of
>>>>>>> losing valuable volunteers. At Large participants are volunteers and unlike
>>>>>>> other constituencies, they do this outside their paid jobs and often take a
>>>>>>> vacation to attend ICANN Meetings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Our community unlike the other the government or business community
>>>>>>> do not have the luxury of sponsorship to carry on their volunteerism.  Our
>>>>>>> community has had to dig into their own pockets to pay to participate. If
>>>>>>> the economy does not pick up we can see a substantial loss of participants
>>>>>>> from locations we cannot afford to lose.  We propose that ICANN recognize
>>>>>>> the value of these participants and create a special connectivity fund. The
>>>>>>> process and procedure could be worked out in a simple application and
>>>>>>> approval process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recommendations
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Provide the stipend to all elected ATLARGE community members
>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Provide an opportunity to ALS members to receive an Internet
>>>>>>>    Connectivity voucher to offset their high Internet costs so they can
>>>>>>>    participate.
>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    ICANN LEARN should conduct a true connectivity survey of all
>>>>>>>    users.
>>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Improve upon the end-user survey at the end of all ICANN Public
>>>>>>>    webinars to get feedback on participation and connectivity experiences ie.
>>>>>>>    latency, quality etc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Conclusion
>>>>>>> Under development
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Footnotes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/forecasting-us.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    60% of farmers in the US report very poor Broadband speeds
>>>>>>>    https://api.unitedsoybean.org/uploads/documents/58546-1-ruralbroadband-whitepages-final.pdf?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletters&utm_source=sendgrid
>>>>>>>    3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Students and digital divide
>>>>>>>    https://internetgovernancehub.blog/2020/04/10/when-school-is-online-the-digital-divide-grows-greater/
>>>>>>>    4.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Poor and Digital Divide
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    https://internetgovernancehub.blog/2020/04/29/digital-divide-isolates-and-endangers-millions-of-uks-poorest/
>>>>>>>    5.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Broadband  Infographic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Glenn McKnight
>>>>>>> ICANN NOMCOM 2019-2021
>>>>>>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>>>>>>> Curator for  Internet Governance Hub Blog
>>>>>>> www.internetgovernancehub.blog
>>>>>>> <http://www.internetgovernancehub.blog>
>>>>>>> http://toronto.ieee.ca/
>>>>>>> IEEE Toronto SIGHT Chair
>>>>>>> glenn.mcknight at ieee.org
>>>>>>> skype  gmcknight
>>>>>>> twitter @Inkmedia
>>>>>>> 289-830 6259
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 3:59 PM Maureen Hilyard <
>>>>>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>> From: Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, May 2, 2020 at 3:10 PM
>>>>>>> To: Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Glenn,
>>>>>>> I have more to add but did not get a chance on Friday to put in but
>>>>>>> will do so tomorrow
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Judith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>> judith at jhellerstein.com
>>>>>>> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 2, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Glenn McKnight <
>>>>>>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>> From: Olivier Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:49 PM
>>>>>>> To: Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>, At Large <
>>>>>>> at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>> Greetings everyone from Sénégal.
>>>>>>> +1 @Glen who raised issues that i'm personaly facing in this sad
>>>>>>> pandemic moment.
>>>>>>> I Also approve the concrete proposals of Remmy.
>>>>>>> Most ALSes are certainly on these needs too.
>>>>>>> Much appreciate if ICANN could make as proposed.
>>>>>>> Warm regards
>>>>>>> Olévié
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>> From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Mon, May 4, 2020 at 6:02 PM
>>>>>>> To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Maureen,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My humble and personal take to this is that similar to the
>>>>>>> fellowship program, we could consider support to community members who
>>>>>>> dedicate significant time and resources to ICANN's mission by contributing
>>>>>>> to the work of various supporting organizations and Advisory Commitees and
>>>>>>> the overall mission of ICANN. It is true engaging in SO/AC work costs
>>>>>>> valuable time for those whose day job may not necessarily be around the DNS
>>>>>>> ecosystem.  Significant resources are incurred to get online and to have
>>>>>>> the right tools that can enable meaningful participation and contribution
>>>>>>> to ICANN's work. I welcome the idea of reimbursing some of the costs
>>>>>>> incurred on connectivity or any other aspect as may be determined through a
>>>>>>> suitable process considering the continuous nature of the work we are doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Barrack O. Otieno
>>>>>>> +254721325277
>>>>>>> +254733206359
>>>>>>> Skype: barrack.otieno
>>>>>>> PGP ID: 0x2611D86A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>> From: LUKE KAPCHANGA <wanjalaluke1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, May 5, 2020 at 6:41 AM
>>>>>>> To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Maureen ,
>>>>>>> Glenn has captured what some of go through, if not worse. I am based
>>>>>>> in rural areas of Kenya. To attend online meetings   I depend at times on
>>>>>>> cyber cafes, which are not very reliable, yet the best option. The COVID
>>>>>>> 19, has worsened the situation. The proposal to assist us from developing
>>>>>>> countries is welcome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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