[At-Large] [BMSPC-2020] Board seat 15 selection

Thu Nov 21 22:40:51 UTC 2019

Let’s start drawing!!!!

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:08 PM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>
wrote:

> Exactly! In a world where the domainers can gin up 3k ridiculous comments,
> activation needs to be a priority for the At-Large!
>
> Jonathan Zuck
> Executive Director
> Innovators Network Foundation
> www.Innovatorsnetwork.org
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* At-Large <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of
> Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:55:57 PM
> *To:* Karl Auerbach <karl at cavebear.com>
> *Cc:* At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [At-Large] [BMSPC-2020] Board seat 15 selection
>
> +1 I agree with you Karl. At-Large had got to  change its approach if we
> are to "draw ICANN" differently and I think that is what Brian has been
> attempting to do.
>
> I would like to hope that we in At-Large are on the way towards creating
> change through everyone talking rationally to each other, sharing their
> perspectives and moving each other more purposefully in a more focused
> direction,  stumbling forward (as Wolfgang suggests) together as a
> collective.
>
> Theoretically, as end-users, our numbers should be our strength, but 200
> odd ALSes and a few hundred individual users who are not yet engaged with
> what ICANN does nor are they actively part of it, are not going to get us
> very far..
>
> Maureen
>
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, 10:14 AM Karl Auerbach, <karl at cavebear.com> wrote:
>
> On 11/21/19 10:25 AM, Christian wrote:
>
> Domain name registration via ICANN structures is not a public interest
> activity but a business with some strong cartel like features.
>
> That is true.
>
> In my own life I wear several hats - I am (obviously) a very pro-democracy
> advocate.  But I am also an intellectual property lawyer.  I also own and
> operate multiple businesses (via corporate forms), most of which have
> domain name and trademarks.  I also am a net techie (and have my name on
> full Internet Standard RFCs.)  I also have a financial interest in various
> domain name registries.
>
> In terms of power (by which I mean power to influence ICANN decisions) the
> least powerful of my hats is that of the individual here in ICANN.
>
> I spent last week among my intellectual property lawyer peers.  Those
> folks represent a seriously strong power block.  When they (or, rather, we)
> are figuring out how to make ICANN dance to our tune we can afford to
> dedicate serious resources, such as full time staff, to make sure we have
> the best chance of winning.  The public, the ALAC, the individual has
> nearly zero chance of winning.  Just witness how easily the intellectual
> property interests got the highly biased UDRP into place and how far ICANN
> policy over the ensuing decades has been shaped to cater to the interests
> of my friends in the intellectual property community.
>
> Same thing in my roles with my corporations and registry interests:
> Although not as well organized as the intellectual property industry, my
> business and registry friends are quite able and willing to expend
> resources (and hire dedicated staff) to ensure that their (our) interests
> are strongly expressed within ICANN.
>
> It is hard for individuals, hobbled by ICANN's Byzantine procedures,
> bureaucracy, layers ALAC "organizations", and a mere single public board
> seat,  to carry the day against well organized and well funded industrial
> opposition.
>
> And ICANN's fundamental structure not only allows, but encourages, this
> kind of industrial collaboration and combination of influence.
>
> The notion of "stakeholder" says that our voice within ICANN is measured
> by our self-interest, largely our financial self-interest, in maters before
> ICANN.   Because individuals - you and me - have a dilute interest, and
> often not an interest easily measured in financial terms, our authority
> within ICANN as stakeholders is written in lower case.  On the other hand,
> because Intellectual Property, business, registrar, and registry interests
> are organized and combined and have a high dollar value their role as
> STAKEHOLDERS in ICANN is written in upper case, in bold font, italicized,
> and underlined.
>
> It is no wonder, therefore, that the "non-profit/public benefit"
> corporation called ICANN has been captured by industrial interests, dances
> to their tunes, and allows sales of "Public Interest Registry" to a body of
> ICANN insiders with nary a shred of concern about the public or its
> interests.
>
> One might apply Jessica Rabbit's famous line to ICANN: "I'm not bad, I'm
> just drawn that way."
>
> ICANN will continue to favor organized business interests over the public
> benefit as long as ICANN retains its present form.
>
> If we want to make ICANN less bad then we will have to draw it a different
> way.
>
>         --karl--
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