[At-Large] [BMSPC-2020] Board seat 15 selection
alberto at soto.net.ar
alberto at soto.net.ar
Thu Nov 21 22:16:55 UTC 2019
+ 1 Maureen. Then we must redouble our efforts to achieve greater
participation of ALSs and individual users. We have treated him with
Lito in ATLAS III in one of the exercises, I even made a prop that did
not seem bad at all ...
El 2019-11-21 18:55, Maureen Hilyard escribió:
> +1 I agree with you Karl. At-Large had got to change its approach if
> we are to "draw ICANN" differently and I think that is what Brian has
> been attempting to do.
> I would like to hope that we in At-Large are on the way towards
> creating change through everyone talking rationally to each other,
> sharing their perspectives and moving each other more purposefully in
> a more focused direction, stumbling forward (as Wolfgang suggests)
> together as a collective.
> Theoretically, as end-users, our numbers should be our strength, but
> 200 odd ALSes and a few hundred individual users who are not yet
> engaged with what ICANN does nor are they actively part of it, are not
> going to get us very far..
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, 10:14 AM Karl Auerbach, <karl at cavebear.com>
>> On 11/21/19 10:25 AM, Christian wrote:
>>> Domain name registration via ICANN structures is not a public
>>> interest activity but a business with some strong cartel like
>> That is true.
>> In my own life I wear several hats - I am (obviously) a very
>> pro-democracy advocate. But I am also an intellectual property
>> lawyer. I also own and operate multiple businesses (via corporate
>> forms), most of which have domain name and trademarks. I also am a
>> net techie (and have my name on full Internet Standard RFCs.) I
>> also have a financial interest in various domain name registries.
>> In terms of power (by which I mean power to influence ICANN
>> decisions) the least powerful of my hats is that of the individual
>> here in ICANN.
>> I spent last week among my intellectual property lawyer peers.
>> Those folks represent a seriously strong power block. When they
>> (or, rather, we) are figuring out how to make ICANN dance to our
>> tune we can afford to dedicate serious resources, such as full time
>> staff, to make sure we have the best chance of winning. The public,
>> the ALAC, the individual has nearly zero chance of winning. Just
>> witness how easily the intellectual property interests got the
>> highly biased UDRP into place and how far ICANN policy over the
>> ensuing decades has been shaped to cater to the interests of my
>> friends in the intellectual property community.
>> Same thing in my roles with my corporations and registry interests:
>> Although not as well organized as the intellectual property
>> industry, my business and registry friends are quite able and
>> willing to expend resources (and hire dedicated staff) to ensure
>> that their (our) interests are strongly expressed within ICANN.
>> It is hard for individuals, hobbled by ICANN's Byzantine procedures,
>> bureaucracy, layers ALAC "organizations", and a mere single public
>> board seat, to carry the day against well organized and well funded
>> industrial opposition.
>> And ICANN's fundamental structure not only allows, but encourages,
>> this kind of industrial collaboration and combination of influence.
>> The notion of "stakeholder" says that our voice within ICANN is
>> measured by our self-interest, largely our financial self-interest,
>> in maters before ICANN. Because individuals - you and me - have a
>> dilute interest, and often not an interest easily measured in
>> financial terms, our authority within ICANN as stakeholders is
>> written in lower case. On the other hand, because Intellectual
>> Property, business, registrar, and registry interests are organized
>> and combined and have a high dollar value their role as STAKEHOLDERS
>> in ICANN is written in upper case, in bold font, italicized, and
>> It is no wonder, therefore, that the "non-profit/public benefit"
>> corporation called ICANN has been captured by industrial interests,
>> dances to their tunes, and allows sales of "Public Interest
>> Registry" to a body of ICANN insiders with nary a shred of concern
>> about the public or its interests.
>> One might apply Jessica Rabbit's famous line to ICANN: "I'm not bad,
>> I'm just drawn that way."
>> ICANN will continue to favor organized business interests over the
>> public benefit as long as ICANN retains its present form.
>> If we want to make ICANN less bad then we will have to draw it a
>> different way.
>> --karl-- _______________________________________________
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