[At-Large] Following on from ATLAS for 2020

ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng
Mon Nov 18 08:25:59 UTC 2019

I totally agree with Maureen. More especially  I totally  agree that

"how RALOs organise things regionally is totally up to the regional members"

"Strong and inclusive RALOs will make for a strong and positive
multistakeholder model of decision-making for At-Large. And we must also
always keep in mind WHY we serve in At-Large, within ICANN and its mission"


On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 8:16 AM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>

> Dear all
> What must be remembered is that in-house decisions about how RALOs
> organise things regionally is totally up to the regional members.. and it
> is always good to see that each RALO introduces successful practices based
> on cultural flavors that can make a real difference to the way that
> regional partners interact with each other and with their communities, and
> the way they ultimately contribute to high-level ICANN activities..
> Also it must be remembered that apart from bottom-up contributions and
> comments that are expected from RALO Chairs at the ALT+ meetings, it is the
> ALAC that makes the final formal decisions about what happens to or impacts
> At-Large.
> It is the diversity of the inputs from the different RALOs that will add
> to the quality of the decisions made by the ALAC. This is why we want to
> impress on our members to ensure that their voices are heard and considered
> at local and regional levels, so that they can truly have an influence on
> At-Large and ICANN decisions.
> Strong and inclusive RALOs will make for a strong and positive
> multistakeholder model of decision-making for At-Large. And we must also
> always keep in mind WHY we serve in At-Large, within ICANN and its mission.
> Regards
> Maureen
> On Sun, 17 Nov 2019, 9:09 PM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE, <
> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Good discussions going on here and in a way, it's a good thing that
>> Maureen is taking things back to the RALOs.
>>  I believe that is where most discussions must begin so I thank Maureen
>> for this.
>> Please let us continue to recognise the bottom-up process and make sure
>> that discussions begin from the RALOs in every step we take on this issue
>> and other At large issues. This would reinforce our multistakeholder
>> approach and avoid a situation where critical decisions are taken are the
>> top and issues we decide to throw into the bin are seen as taken to the
>> RALOs.
>> Thanks
>> AK
>> On Mon, 18 Nov 2019, 03:55 Maureen Hilyard, <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Dear all
>>> I am transferring the previous Board Selection discussion introduced by
>>> Wolfgang and continued by Natalia and Sebastian because I want to move onto
>>> another tangent more towards where I felt the discussion was heading. I
>>> guess this is my takeaway from ATLAS as the ALAC Chair.
>>> I really like the suggestion that we record the history of the
>>> development and history of At-Large and  Board seat 15 to explain how our
>>> structure and culture evolved. Where we came from is always an interesting
>>> topic and the videos that Jonathan shared in Montreal were a testament to
>>> where ATLAS started and how much it has changed already since its
>>> inception. Each event demonstrated a key focus which helped to initiate
>>> some change into the following 5 years of At-Large and subsequent inputs
>>> into the ICANN ecosystem.
>>> ATLAS III provided us with an opportunity to look at how we might
>>> operate at ICANN, regional and community levels to deliver the vision and
>>> mission of ICANN.
>>> Theoretically, we introduced many At-Large participants to how a more
>>> efficient and effective At-Large of the future could result from the
>>> development of more effective communicators of ICANN policy. We also
>>> learned of the importance of why we need to operate more efficiently within
>>> the ICANN ecosystem in  close collaboration with other core sections of the
>>> ICANN community
>>> ATLAS III provided us with an ideal springboard to direct more focus on
>>> what we need to do to create an At-Large of the future that is accepted  by
>>> other sections to be a fully contributing and valued partner within ICANN.
>>> My view is that this must start from RALO level. But we cannot expect
>>> all RALOs to do this in the same way. Each RALO is unique. They each have
>>> to look at what would be effective local culturally-relevant mechanisms and
>>> practices for their particular region that would engage more people at
>>> community level with ICANN's vision and mission.
>>> In order to do this, we need to ensure that RALO members have the
>>> appropriate resources; that those who are active and capable ATLAS
>>> Ambassadors can provide appropriate training and upskilling that will
>>> encourage and give more confidence for other potential At-Large
>>> participants in their regions and to interact with other ICANN participants
>>> within their own communities - registries and registrars, registrants and
>>> wanna-be registrants, regional I* organisations, cctld managers, government
>>> officials - to help build a more united ICANN of the future, starting at
>>> grassroots level.
>>> This may need the development of more national SIGs - Schools of ICANN
>>> governance. In fact, innovative and active ALSes whose own missions could
>>> easily incorporate such a focus could become the national hubs for these
>>> developments. Perhaps this could develop into an ICANN project taking into
>>> account other similar discussions that took place in Montreal with NASIG,
>>> Stakeholder Engagement and Communications presonnel.
>>> In this way we can more successfully infiltrate the needs and interests
>>> of end-users directly into the decision-making sections of ICANN from
>>> within our own  communities - the people we know best..
>>> For the short term however, in order to kick off our post-ATLAS
>>> activities following the normal ATLAS feedback activities, we still have
>>> unfinished business  remaining of the At-Large Review - Issue 2.
>>> We need more people discussing the issues that Alan raises in his draft
>>> document on ALS mobilization. Ideally these discussions should take place
>>> at RALO level and then representatives can take regional messages to Alan's
>>> working group.
>>> The aim will be on how we can attract, train, mobilise and communicate
>>> with individual ALS and unaffiliated members who are committed to being
>>> more active and engaged in  policy issues and discussions, and other
>>> At-Large activities, at whatever level they feel competent and comfortable
>>> - within their RALOs, At-Large or across the ICANN community. We already
>>> have partners ready to go in NPOC and the GAC
>>> Many thanks to Wolfgang for inspiring us further into this discussion
>>> about how we can contribute to the evolving multistakeholder model within
>>> ICANN.
>>> I still think that between them, Wolfgang and Sebastian could help to
>>> produce an ICANN Learn resource (including any photographs and video
>>> footage) on the evolution of At-Large and the Board selection process as
>>> preparation for a better understanding for all of us of where we have come
>>> from, so that, just as before we started ATLAS III, we can all contribute
>>> to a more informed discussion of where we should/could be in the future.
>>> In 2017, APRALO produced an eBook to celebrate its first 10 years
>>> <http://online.fliphtml5.com/rvce/fzjj/>, and it was an interesting
>>> look at leadership and change within the RALO. It would be great to read
>>> about other RALOs and their evolution and to keep that on our website for
>>> new people to read about what they will encounter in At-Large in their
>>> region.. While it is a look at the past, it helps to shed some light on the
>>> path we will follow in order to evolve, at least for the next 10 years
>>> Maureen
>>> Natalia Filina via
>>> <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en>
>>> atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>> 10:53 AM (6 hours ago)
>>> to Wolfgang, Alan, at-large
>>> Dear Wolfgang,
>>> Many thanks for your interesting excursion into the history and
>>> evolution of our community as also for the fact that this story doesn`t
>>>  hide many sharp moments and your opinion.
>>> This story (seems to me) is a part of the prologue of guide-book for
>>> members,  newcomers of the community (in writing, but better the video, if
>>> you kindly agree to participate in this venture-).
>>> In my humble opinion and perhaps the time for strategic discussions has
>>> come now, just after ATLASIII, when the ranks of leaders have been enhanced
>>> with new faces, new blood, new ideas and new energy.
>>> And, as I may expect the paragraph 8 in your story (maybe in a half of
>>> upcoming year) may got the point about the grown role of ALAC in Evolving
>>> ICANN’s Multistakeholder Model.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Natalia Filina
>>> Secretary of EURALO
>>> https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo
>>> https://individualusers.org/
>>> Member of ALAC Subcommittee on Outreach and Engagement
>>> Officer of SIG IoT (ISOC)
>>> Wolfgang Kleinwächter via
>>> <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en>
>>> atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>> 1:45 AM (15 hours ago)
>>> to Kaili, Alan, at-large
>>> Hi,
>>> here is the full background story:
>>> 1. The original bylaws (1998) did reserve 9 voting seats for an
>>> undefined "At Large Membership". 9 other voting seats were reserved for
>>> three SOs (DNSO, ASO, PSO). Ine seat for the CEO. There was a "placeholder"
>>> in the bylaws because nobody knew, what "At Large" is. An "Membership
>>> Advisory Committee" (MAC) was formed in Singapore during the 1st ICANN
>>> meeting in February 1999 (with the Berkman Center/Jonathan Zittrain as the
>>> academic back up). The MAC had a meeting during the 2nd ICANN in Berlin,
>>> July 1999. It concluded to identify the At Large voting directors via
>>> elections in the year 2000. The whole project was seen as a pilot project
>>> for "cyberdemocracy" and a bigger role of civil society on Internet policy
>>> making. The elections were described as an "experiment". They were
>>> organized with the help of a "Membership Implementation Task Force" (MITF).
>>> As a first step, the plan was to elect five directors from the five ICANN
>>> regions. The election was an exciting but also irritating experience. It
>>> worked and the community (around 200 000 voters) elected five directors
>>> which took their seat at the 2000 Annual Meeting in LA.
>>> 2. The elections produced a lot of questions. To answer those questions,
>>> ICANN etsbalished an "At Large Study Group" (ALG), chaired by the former
>>> Swedish prime minister Carl Bildt. The recommendations of the
>>> Bildt-Committee were presented at the ICANN meeting in Montevideo,
>>> September 2001. The main receommendation was to allow only "domainname
>>> holder" to participate in the election to avoid a misuse and to have a
>>> higher level of "representation" by stakeholders. Nevertheless, the
>>> Bildt-Proposal produced a wave of criticism by civil society. Such an
>>> approach would have excluded, inter alia, students, which have an e-Mail
>>> address but no domain name. The domain name is owned by the university
>>> which woulkd have only one vote in the new proposed system. The comparison
>>> was made to the election system in the middle ages where only "landowners"
>>> had a right to vote. The decision was postponed to the LA Annual Meeting in
>>> November 2001. The day after the At Large discussion on Montevideo two
>>> planes crashed into the twin towers in NYC.
>>> 3. 9/11 changed the political environment for the development of ICANN.
>>> ICANN was not seen anymore as a project for "cyberdemocracy" but as a
>>> question for "cybersecurity". US senators came to the ICANN meeting in LA
>>> and aksed tough questions how it can be avoided that a "terrorist" get
>>> elected into the ICANN Board of Directors. LA 2001 became the starting
>>> point of the first ICANN reform process.
>>> 4. The ICANN reform process was completed within less than two years. It
>>> included a restructuring of ICANN. The DNSO was subdivided into the GNSO
>>> and the CNSO. The PSO was abolished and transformed into  "technical liason
>>> group". The elections of Voting At Large directors were abolished. Instaed
>>> of election a "selection" process was introduced through a new "Nomimation
>>> Committee" (NomCom). The NomCom got the right to "select" 8 voting
>>> directors in a process, strechted over three years (3:3:2). At Large was
>>> transfered into an "At Large Advisory Committee" (ALAC) with one non-voting
>>> liaison in the board. New structures with "recognized ALSs" and "RALOs",
>>> which had to sign a MoU with ICANN, were created. To compensate At Large
>>> for the loss of the nine voting directors, they got five seats in the
>>> NomCom. It was intended, that the NomCom will select directors which
>>> represent users/civil society.
>>> 5. After the reform was fixed into the new bylaws a lot of big
>>> supporters of the At Large, Election and Cyberdemocracy concept distanced
>>> themselves more or less from ICANN. Supporters of the new ALAC did not
>>> really represent anymore the big civil society NGOs. ALAC became something
>>> like a "Champions League without Champions". A nunber of civil society
>>> organisation moved within ICANN to the Non-Commercial User Organisation
>>> (NCUC), a constituency iwthin the GNSO. However, the RALOs were formed, the
>>> number of ALSs were growing and over the years, ALAC returned to became
>>> again a more recognized player in the ICANN family. The call for ALAC
>>> voting directors came back and culminated into the call for holding an "At
>>> Large Summit" (ATLAS). ATLAS 1 took place 2008 in Mexico. One sub-committee
>>> produced a resolution which called for two voting seats for ALAC. The Board
>>> recognized the legitimacy of such a call, however, the compromise was to
>>> change the non-voting ALAC liaison in the Board into a Voting Director,
>>> elected by the ALAC itself.
>>> 6. This is the situation which stands until now. In my eyes, ATLAS III
>>> (recently in Montreal) was a missed opportunity to have a more strategic
>>> oriented discussion about the role and future of At Large (user, civil
>>> society) in ICANN as a whole. This was also a missed opportunity to ask for
>>> a second voting seat in the Board. However, it was good to see that NCUC
>>> and ALAC entered into a more constructive and forward looking dialogue
>>> which ould lead to a stronger voice of the user/civil society stakeholder
>>> group within the empowered community.
>>> 7.  With the IANA transition and the emergence of the "empowered
>>> community" we have reached a new situation. However, this is not the end of
>>> the story. In my eyes there is a need for something like a Work Stream 3
>>> (WS3) which looks deeper into the existing structure of ICANN and how it
>>> matches the needs of the 2020s or whether a structural reform is needed to
>>> adjust it to the new challenges in a post-IANA transition period.  With
>>> other words, ATLAS IV (2024?) could re-introduce the call for a 2nd AT
>>> Large voting director.
>>> Best wishes
>>> Wolfgang
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