[At-Large] Fwd: ATLASIII Participation

Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch apisan at unam.mx
Sat Jul 13 18:01:37 UTC 2019

The political science behind Karl's statement was superseded in Babylon or probably earlier, 8,000 years ago, in Göbekli Tepe, and more formally in Athens, 2,500 years ago. Let's move on.

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Desde: At-Large [at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] en nombre de Carlton Samuels [carlton.samuels at gmail.com]
Enviado el: sábado, 13 de julio de 2019 12:49
Hasta: Karl Auerbach
CC: Humberto Carrasco; At-Large Worldwide
Asunto: Re: [At-Large] Fwd: ATLASIII Participation

Here you are again, Karl, with the vision of the third eye!

Carlton A Samuels
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On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 2:41 PM Karl Auerbach <karl at cavebear.com<mailto:karl at cavebear.com>> wrote:
On 7/12/19 5:53 AM, Christian de Larrinaga wrote:
> In no way to detract from any point you are making. But this is the
> first I've heard about ATLAS participation or these ICANN courses. I
> also have no idea whether this matters in the slightest.

I, as well, found these requirements surprising.  They reminded me of
19th century European sovereigns who claimed that their colonial
governments in Africa were necessary because the people there were
incapable of deciding questions that were important to their own lives.

Yes, that is a harsh assessment.  But imposition of participation
requirements, such as mandatory education, smacks of "top down" management.

Yes, people who don't know the lingo of the meeting do slow things
down.  But ICANN has been wandering around, doing essentially little
except promote certain intellectual property and business interests for
more than two decades.  "Efficient" is not a word that seems to exist in
the ICANN universe.

Why not a list of suggested readings rather than a mandatory gauntlet?

Much of the potential of ICANN is not in following the deeply rutted
path of what ICANN has done over the last two decades but, rather, in
what is possible when one explores the green fields to the sides of the
old road.

Mandatory courses can be blinders - devices used on horses so that they
could see only what was in front of them, not to the sides.

Those mandatory courses tell potential participants what has been; not
what is possible.

Nor are those courses complete.  For instance, is there material that
explains how (or why) ICANN arrived at the present Byzantine structure
or what the alternatives were (and perhaps still are)?

Those courses reminded me of when I started in the field of networking
that we had to learn about circuits and BiSync and HASP because that was
the way thing were done.  It was revolutionaries like Luis Pouzin, Don
Davies, and Paul Baran who said "we don't need circuits, packets are
sufficient" that broke us out of the status quo and led to the
end-to-end principle and the internet.

(There are even more harsh assessments of imposed orthodoxy.  I am
reminded of Mao's Red Book [which was pilloried in a great aria -
https://youtu.be/TyiKxltknZI ].)


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