[At-Large] ATLASIII Participation

Wed Jul 10 06:52:06 UTC 2019

Alberto,

agree, and the discussion should move to the objectives of the summit and
the ways to achieve them. An important step would be to find out what would
better serve the people whom the organizations in At Large and the ICANN
design for At Large mean to serve. Lamentations over, work on.

Quick question picking up from ATLAS II, and a useful poll every
organization should run with its membership and report: what is more
important for the final user? An ICANN that works effecitvely
(cost-effective; shielded from special-interest [including governmental]
capture; credible, predictable policy processes; DNS stable, secure,
robust, reliable, and resilient; and so on) or an At Large that works to
its leadership's satisfaction?

We should be able to design that in a short time and make sure it is run in
all five regions in a way that delivers significant results. These results
would provide a benchmark for success or failure of the meeting and further
help prepare participants as well as better define and weed out misconduct.

Alejandro Pisanty

On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 10:51 PM Alberto Soto <alberto at soto.net.ar> wrote:

> I think there are opinions about the intention, participation, selection
> of those selected for ATLAS III who have not taken the necessary knowledge
> about the whole process. And it seems that I have not taken into account
> the participation in ATLAS I and Atlas II.
>
> And it is very bad, it distorts a whole process that had a wide
> dissemination before, now generated a discussion that makes us lose time
> with issues that were clarified before the selection of the applicants.
>
> If they did not take knowledge before for not having participated, I want
> to emphasize that in the ALAC webinar we had very few participants (never
> more than twenty ...). In those that were requirements for ATLAS III in
> which I participated, there were more than 70, and there were two equal.
> All of them became aware that webinars were one of the requirements to be
> selected. There were others related to participation in its Ralo, ALAC and
> / or ICANN.
>
> I think thats enough ...
>
> I believe that the demands try to ensure an active participation, that
> they justify the investment of ICANN. I want to emphasize this concept:
> investment.
>
> Because if the objectives fail, this will be an expense, with the
> responsibility of ALAC.
>
> The issue of investment or expense, I did note in an ALAC meeting with the
> ICANN board when we talk about the translation services.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
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> Alberto
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> *De: *At-Large <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de
> Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
> *Fecha: *martes, 9 de julio de 2019, 23:59
> *Para: *Jacqueline Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com>, Holly Raiche <
> h.raiche at internode.on.net>
> *CC: *At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> *Asunto: *Re: [At-Large] ATLASIII Participation
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> Nowhere did we ever advertise ATLAS III as a "free vacation trip to
> glorious damp, cold and maybe snowy Montreal". We asked for people who
> wanted to *participate* in ATLAS III, and all we are saying here is that,
> to hopefully no ones surprise, we actually expect them to participate.
>
> Alan
>
> At 09/07/2019 09:46 PM, Jacqueline Morris wrote:
>
> A quick question - were all of these explained to applicants before they
> applied? Because it seems to me to be a bit "bait and switch" to impose
> requirements and penalties AFTER the application process has ended, and the
> winning candidates have been chosen and are making ready to travel.
> Jacqueline A. Morris
> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
> Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:21 PM < h.raiche at internode.on.net> wrote:
>
> And not to labour the point, but all ATLASIII participants need to know up
> front what is expected of them both in behavour and work, and consequences
> for failuare to meet the know standards
>
> Holly
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> "John Laprise" <jlaprise at gmail.com>
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> "At-Large Worldwide" < at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
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> Tue, 9 Jul 2019 15:11:44 -0500
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> Re: [At-Large] ATLASIII Participation
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> I think at this point we have sufficient data to assess that in the past,
> ATLAS participants were not always as diligent as we would like. I'm all
> for collecting data at ATLASIII, however we should have in place remedies
> for failure to abide by the MOU in place before rather than after
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019, 2:59 PM Alfredo Calderon < calderon.alfredo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> John:
>
> As a Fellow and NASIG organizer a MOU was sent to all selected and we had
> to agree to all conditions and sign. Once that documentation was received
> it was official to proceed with Travel arrangements.
>
> Additionally, during the different sessions a visual (look-around) was
> done, since all Fellows should have stated their schedule for the dates at
> each ICANN Meeting.  I the case of our NASIG daily attendance was required.
>
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> On Jul 9, 2019, at 10:16 AM, John Laprise <jlaprise at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would like us all to consider consequences for ATLASIII participants who
> travel but do not participate (excepting reasons of illness etc). This is a
> serious, professional responsibility and should be treated as such.
>
> For a start, I would suggest that participants who fail to participate
> should be ineligible for funding and elections for 3 years.
>
> I look forward to conversation on this topic leading to action by the ALAC.
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> John Laprise, Ph.D.
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