[At-Large] ATLASIII Participation

Fatimata Seye Sylla fsylla at gmail.com
Tue Jul 9 18:24:30 UTC 2019


+1 to Roberto while I fully understand John's concern.
Let's start monitoring attendance and participation first.

Fatimata

On Tue, Jul 9, 2019, 16:48 Jacqueline Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com>
wrote:

> Roberto
> Totally agree with you that  we need to verify that the problem does
> exist, to what degree, and also, I think, why, if it does.
> Data is useful in understanding the problem, and the problem needs to be
> understood before solutions can be conceived and implemented.
> Regards
> Jacqueline
>
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2019, 12:05 PM Roberto Gaetano, <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> John,
>> I am in full agreement with you about the identification of the problem
>> and the need to find a solution that will necessarily include sanctions for
>> the bad behaviours.
>> However, I think that the problem is complex, and that we need to give
>> some deeper thought about how to solve it.
>> I am thinking, for instance, that ICANN has a similar problem with
>> fellowship or other programmes that provide travel support. Can we collect
>> information about how ICANN deals with that? Also, I am under the
>> impression that the different participants to fellowship and similar
>> programmes have obligations to fulfil, that their presence is checked, and
>> so on.
>> We can start making clear that some of these measures might be applied in
>> Montreal - it is not to “control”, but to collect data points. As of today,
>> we do not know to which extent the problem exists - for instance, to the
>> best of my knowledge we did not check attendance at the previous ATLAS.
>> I have a related - but not completely - question. Now that the selection
>> of the participants who will enjoy travel support has been made, can we
>> remove the limitation to participation to the ATLAS III Programme
>> Committee? Incidentally, although this topic is not fully in scope of that
>> Committee, maybe a first reflection on the topic could be done there?
>> Thanks,
>> Roberto
>>
>>
>> > On 09.07.2019, at 16:40, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear John,
>> >
>> >
>> > I am with you. I believe there is all travellers must comply with Atlas
>> III goals. Travelling to Canada is not a vacation. However, instead of
>> saying 3 years, I would say for any ICANN funding for 5 years or the next
>> ATLAS meeting. If I remember well the last ATLAS meeting was 2014 (5 years
>> ago)
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Enviado desde mi iPhone
>> >
>> > El 09-07-2019, a la(s) 10:16, John Laprise <jlaprise at gmail.com>
>> escribió:
>> >
>> >> I would like us all to consider consequences for ATLASIII participants
>> who travel but do not participate (excepting reasons of illness etc). This
>> is a serious, professional responsibility and should be treated as such.
>> >>
>> >> For a start, I would suggest that participants who fail to participate
>> should be ineligible for funding and elections for 3 years.
>> >>
>> >> I look forward to conversation on this topic leading to action by the
>> ALAC.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my Pixel 3XL
>> >>
>> >> John Laprise, Ph.D.
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