[At-Large] A brexit problem that I heard about

Mon Aug 20 14:20:43 UTC 2018

The change isn’t New Year’s eve – it’d be March 2019

The issue is that the EC isn’t engaging constructively with registrars or our clients, so it’s a total mess.

Allowing existing registrants to keep their .eu domains would be the sanest way forward, but the EC doesn’t seem to be willing to discuss it.

And they’ve also started some insane plan about expanding who can qualify for a .eu domain name without any real thought into how that can be made a reality.

Oh the fun

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Michele

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From: At-Large <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>
Date: Monday 20 August 2018 at 14:35
To: Danko Jevtović <danko at jevtovic.rs>
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Subject: Re: [At-Large] A brexit problem that I heard about

Danko,
About EURID, I stand corrected, it is the EU who sets the rules. EURID only enforces them as operator.
I fully agree with you, it is all part of the global package and nobody wants to start showing what the possible compromise points will be. The problems, from the operation’s point of view, is that in case of no compromise they have to do the job overnight on New Year’s Eve and that this will happen before the Brexit deadline, so even if a negotiation will be successful in 2019 the TLD changes could have been effective already.
A big mess, where, as usual, politics dictates and common sense, once again, shows to be far less “common” than we think.
Cheers,
Roberto

On 20.08.2018, at 13:53, Danko Jevtović <danko at jevtovic.rs<mailto:danko at jevtovic.rs>> wrote:

I understand that it is not up to EURID, but to EC (European Commission), that hold the contract with EURID to manage to TLDs.

The problem seems to be that possible solution (grandfathering clause) cannot be discussed outside of the whole package of Brexit negotiations, effectively blocking any reasonable progress.

Danko

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Hi Barry.
You might have a point in principle.
However the reality is that each TLD can decide its own rules, and therefore whether to be strict in terms of requirements - like for instance .bank - or loose - like for instance .com.
.eu has chosen the first approach, and has all right to do so. Whether EURID is willing to make an exception for Brexit - based also on the consideration that, as far as I know, they do not make continuous checking about whether the resistant still complies with the requirements - or not, I don’t know. Apparently not.
Cheers,
Roberto

On 17.08.2018, at 19:31, bzs at theworld.com<mailto:bzs at theworld.com> wrote:

Ok I'll say it...

How many of these affected *.EU domains were actually entities with
some sort of EU charter or relationship as the TLD was approved for in
2005?

I realize it's naive to point out that .NET was for networking
organizations and .ORG for not-for-profits etc. in a world where we
have .XYZ and .FAIL (must they really be FAILures?)

Ok that ship has sailed because no one wanted to enforce it as it
would interfere with maximazing domain sales in those TLDs.

But are we really supposed to get lathered up about those who now got
burned flouting all that?

What promise do those affected actually expect to be upheld? Chapter
and verse not "well, we assumed..."?

And, no, marching out one or two bona-fide examples doesn't quite rise
to a counter argument.

If there were only one or two or ten I'll guess they could be handled
since they would have always had a legitimae reason to represent
themselves with a .EU domain which one would hope would allow them
some explicit accommodation.

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