[At-Large] A brexit problem that I heard about

Fri Aug 17 12:40:00 UTC 2018

That does not scale.
If you’ve got 1 or 2 users on a domain name it’s pretty easily (technically) to move them to a new domain.

It’s a very different when you have large numbers of users AND complex systems in play.

If you retain the “original” domain name making a change isn’t “as painful”, but if the domain literally vanishes or, which is a lot more worrying, is taken over by someone else then stuff will break.

Regards

Michele

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From: sivasubramanian muthusamy <6.internet at gmail.com>
Date: Friday 17 August 2018 at 13:37
To: Michele Neylon <michele at blacknight.com>
Cc: gtheo <gtheo at xs4all.nl>, At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [At-Large] A brexit problem that I heard about

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:27 PM Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:
Sorry, but what on earth do you mean?

If I have all my headed paper, business cards etc etc using a .eu domain name and I move to another domain extension I lose all that *if* the .eu domain name is either deleted, suspended or simply registered to someone else.

It’s very different to a simple rebranding exercise where you retain control of the original domain name and can setup pointers, redirects etc.,

True.  But in the event that control over the domain name goes away due to EXTERNAL factors beyond control, (as in this case the brexit related .EU directive coming into force), the alternative to the domain registering finding a c/o street address (which may be illegal) or actually maintaining a street presence (which may not be legally feasible or not affordable) the least harmful alternative (or relief) would be for the hosting environment to allow the registrant to migrate his account  and all his content to a new domain of his own choice.  At present (possibly due to some limitations or safeguards he is unable to use a new  non EU domain to preserve his email account linked to the .EU domain name.

Sivasubramanian M

For example we used to use blacknight.ie<http://blacknight.ie> for our website and email. We don’t anymore, but you’d never notice as we still retain control of the domain.

Regards

Michele

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From: At-Large <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of sivasubramanian muthusamy <6.internet at gmail.com<mailto:6.internet at gmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday 15 August 2018 at 10:36
To: gtheo <gtheo at xs4all.nl<mailto:gtheo at xs4all.nl>>
Cc: At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [At-Large] A brexit problem that I heard about

Dear Theo Geurts,
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 2:28 PM gtheo <gtheo at xs4all.nl<mailto:gtheo at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
The alternatives are very limited as privacy or proxy registrations are
a violation of the registry agreement if I am correct.

One alternative solution that would mitigate the hardships for at least a few of the 300k .EU (and the registrants other gTLD and ccTLD registries that may in future decide for one compelling reason or another to drop some domains) could arise from the Domain management services (which in this case, in this or expanded technical capacity, is Google) who could make it possible for these users to migrate to another domain name of their choice.

Sivasubramanian M

The latest news and info can be located here;
https://eurid.eu/en/register-a-eu-domain/brexit-notice/
We are talking around 300k .EU registrations for possible deletion.

Best,

Theo Geurts

sivasubramanian muthusamy schreef op 2018-08-15 02:31 AM:
> Hello,
>
> Someone who is a UK citizen some years ago registered a .EU internet
> domain name. This happens to be linked to a legacy Google account
> which his family uses. The domain Registry has now advised that it
> will be terminating .EU domains for UK individuals and organisations
> as early as next year. The legacy Google account will not permit him
> to change the domain name, and doing so would create a whole range of
> complications in any case.
>
> One solution is to maintain business or residential presence in EU in
> some manner ifor the sake of the domain. Is there  lany alternative
> solutions please?
>
> Sivasubramanian M
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