[At-Large] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista

Carlos Raul Gutierrez carlosraul at gutierrez.se
Sat Jul 14 13:45:58 UTC 2018


Dear Seun, 

I strongly disagree with your "winner takes all" evaluation. My basic
premise was that ICANN was a non-for-porfit public interst dreiven
organzation. Not a Pyramid business. But I'm here to learn.

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El 2018-07-14 12:53, Seun Ojedeji escribió:

> Sent from my mobile
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos 
> 
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2018, 09:12 Carlos Raul Gutierrez, <carlosraul at gutierrez.se> wrote: 
> 
>> Thanks Michele! 
>> 
>> Even if it has zero registrations, ICANN made a nice chunk of income out of it. Should they get their money back?
> 
> SO: Did they not make a business decision, afterall they were not forced to apply. However wrong it might be, it was their choice and their loss, hence a refund should be moot.  
> 
> Cheers! 
> 
> Cheers
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> El 2018-07-11 10:27, Michele Neylon - Blacknight escribió: 
> 
> Carlton 
> 
> It's a .brand - zero "normal" registrants or users will be impacted 
> 
> If it was a TLD with actual registrations then it would be a totally different matter, but it isn't. 
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Michele 
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> FROM: At-Large <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
> DATE: Tuesday 10 July 2018 at 21:10
> TO: At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org" <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> SUBJECT: [At-Large] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista 
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> Maybe we should track these 'returns/abandonments' and in context, [re]read the recommendations of the Subsequent Procedures WG?   
> 
> Saw a story of a domain investor account of his return on investment so far; he's in the red with diminishing prospects.   
> 
> On top of these kind of stories that speak to the conditions in the end user market and the 'retired and/or abandoned gLTDs, it just seems 'otherworldly' to me that in all the happy talk of new rounds, this idea that demand has something to do with markets is largely left unmentioned. Helluva thing! 
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> https://domainnamewire.com/2018/07/10/vistaprint-drops-vista-top-level-domain/ 
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> -Carlton 
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