[At-Large] [lac-discuss-en] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista

[Carlton Samuels]

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On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:29 PM Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
wrote:

> ICANN is *NOT* a regulator, a function that requires government granting
> of powers. But it does, via contracts, perform regulatory-type functions
> and controls.
>
> Alan
>
> At 13/07/2018 05:34 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>
> Every ICANN president has vigorously asserted that ICANN is not a
> regulator. This is not merely a casual opinion, it is a demand imposed upon
> them by ICANN's lawyers. To admit that ICANN is a regulator - - or even
> provides some regulatory function - - is to invite even deeper state
> scrutiny and attempts to make ICANN into a multilateral, treaty-based body
> than now exists.
>
> In a submission to ICANN's Accountability and Transparency review team
> more than a decade ago, a number of At-Large members submitted an analysis
> that called on ICANN to recognize the obvious and embrace its inner
> regulator:
>
> https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-atrt2-02apr13/pdfNKvEtbrZ3u.pdf
>
> Not much has changed. While a few references are dated, the paper's
> observations and commentaries are as valid now as then.
>
> ___________________
> Evan Leibovitch, Toronto
> @evanleibovitch/@el56
>
> On Jul 13, 2018 5:13 PM, "Kan Kaili" <kankaili at gmail.com> wrote:
> Indeed Goran has said "ICANN is not a regulator" many times.  I have heard
> him saying that myself.  However, this is something I disagree with him.
>
> Again, in my personal opinion, as long as the positioning of ICANN stays
> blurry as it is now, the confusion will only accumulate until it creats a
> crisis.
>
>
> Kaili
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johan Helsingius" <julf at julf.com>
> To: < at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [At-Large] [lac-discuss-en] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista
>
>
> > On 12-07-18 19:56, Kan Kaili wrote:
> >> In my opinion, ICANN should play the role of a regulator.
> >
> > Our esteemed CEO, Göran Marby, has a number of phrases he repeats
> > fairly often. "ICANN is not a regulator" is one of them.
> >
> > Julf
> >
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