[At-Large] [lac-discuss-en] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista

Wed Jul 11 15:19:34 UTC 2018

Corporate logic can be strange, especially in relations to money and savings.

We had issue with expiry of samsung.rs that someone registered later and redirected to www.apple.com. It turned out that Samsung corporate has decided to use samsung.com/rs style and to let all cc domains expire, presumably to save the costs. I don’t believe it made up for much of the then problem with exploding S7 Note.

Danko

From: At-Large <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> On Behalf Of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
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Subject: Re: [At-Large] [lac-discuss-en] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista

Yes, that's what I wondered. I mean, having gone through the motions and all the work to apply, it seems strange to let go of such a mark, except if the crowded trademark space around "vista" was more a liability than an asset.
https://bit.ly/2LciD0g

Kindest regards,

Olivier

On 11/07/2018 16:28, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:

That’s a tiny amount of money for a Fortune 500 etc

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Date: Wednesday 11 July 2018 at 15:27
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Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [At-Large] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista

Over and above anything else, there is the $25k annual registry fee plus whatever their registry operator is charging them.

Alan

At 11/07/2018 09:42 AM, Olivier MJ CrÃ©pin-Leblond wrote:

Dear Michele,

I wonder why they are dropping it. Does it cost them more in the long run, than using several composed domains?
Kindest regards,

Olivier

On 11/07/2018 10:27, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:

Carlton

Itâ€™s a .brand – zero â€œnormalâ€ registrants or users will be impacted

If it was a TLD with actual registrations then it would be a totally different matter, but it isnâ€™t.

Regards 

Michele

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Subject: [At-Large] Vistaprint is abandoning .vista

Maybe we should track these 'returns/abandonments' and in context, [re]read the recommendations of the Subsequent Procedures WG?  

Saw a story of a domain investor account of his return on investment so far; he's in the red with diminishing prospects.  

On top of these kind of stories that speak to the conditions in the end user market and the 'retired and/or abandoned gLTDs, it just seems 'otherworldly' to me that in all the happy talk of new rounds, this idea that demand has something to do with markets is largely left unmentioned. Helluva thing!

https://domainnamewire.com/2018/07/10/vistaprint-drops-vista-top-level-domain/ 

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