[At-Large] FCC TO SCRAP NET NEUTRALITY

Thu Dec 7 11:35:05 UTC 2017

What did I miss here? I think there’s a big difference I we all care about this issue (‘cause we all do) and whether ICANN’s very specific remit will be affected (which I think will not, but if it did I’m completely willing to do something about it).  All USA ICANN community folks can do something as individuals here, either objecting on the FCC record or future actions like voting Democratic in the future and getting a Democrat in the White House, and/or boycotting ISPs that either block or throttle sites (as a Puerto Rican, I can only resort to the first and last among these options).  One can also express ones opinion and spread it all over the web/social media, and threads like this one, which is the option I took in this Op-Ed: “The end of Net Neutrality — Now what?” https://newsismybusiness.com/net-neutrality-what/

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El dic. 7, 2017, a la(s) 7:14 a. m., Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com> escribió:

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>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Derek Smythe <derek at aa419.org> wrote:
>> Michael 
>> Since I have no dog in this fight - no financial interests, rather purely altruistic from a global perspective and as thus not compromised:
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>> This is an issue local to the USA. 
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> No. It is not local to the USA. It starts here, sets the trend and infects the whole world.
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>> The world does not end on US shores. The US population only makes out something like 4.5% of the world population. This is a global list. 
>> While what your say may have relevance in your geographical area, it does not belong on this list as this is not ICANN's remit as was explained.
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> What is in ICANN's remit? Registry business? Why not reduce it to a commercial for-profit corporation franchising out Domain Names?
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>> As such, by the time your message reaches halfway around the world, it translates to nothing more than noise on this list. 
>> Please find an appropriate forum using the appropriate mechanisms to address this. 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>  Derek 
>>> On 2017-12-07 04:58 AM, William Michael Cunningham wrote:
>>> This, really, is the question. 
>>> 
>>> The answer is so clear that attempts to deny the relevance           of this policy MUST give rise to questions about interest and compromise. I suppose one should question the more aggressive discussants about their financial position relative to any benefit that might accrue to them, their clients or their employers from higher internet access fees and lower internet access and reliability for the majority of the poor and people of color in the geographic regions affected. Or, it may simply be a cultural issue. If your income is higher than the income for the average human being living on earth today, you might be in a privileged (compromised ) position financially, and thus unable to fully understand the impact this proposed policy will have. (Note that I fall into that category. My experience and perspective simply gives me an awareness that others, apparently, lack.)
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>>> Calls for "proof" are an old trick, since there is no proof that would suffice for those requesting it. The request for proof is itself irrelevant, since the question does not concern what policy stance ICANN should take relative to NN, but, rather, a rational recognition that, according to the stated goals of the organization, this FCC policy WILL have an impact. The honest thing to do is to describe and prepare for that impact is it relates to the broader social (access, diversity, income) goals of the organization, not to retreat behind a narrow interpretation of the duties and obligations of this organization. 
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>>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> John, 
>>>> 
>>>> Are you saying that it is none of ICANN's concern what happens to the Internet?
>>>> 
>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 5, 2017 8:31 AM, "John R. Levine" <johnl at iecc.com> wrote:
>>>>> Interesting. Suggest you look again.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for confirming that we have both looked at each of the 125 paragraphs of the FCC's recent order, as well as Appendices A and B, and the statements of the various commissioners and we agree that there is nothing affecting the operation of the Internet's identfiers that would be relevant to ICANN.
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>>>> R's,
>>>> John
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