[At-Large] Unsubscribe me please

Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch apisan at unam.mx
Tue Feb 21 05:39:56 UTC 2017


waxing nostalgic for face-to-face communication in a group that is discussing how online communications don't scale satisfactorily is a bit more than paradoxal.

And certainly it is out of place at the rise of a new era of increased restrictions on travel and ingress to countries and regions.

It is also notable given the experience that even Karl as an ICANN Director only attended one meeting outside the US during his tenure. Today at least one Director is liable to be barred by law in the opposite direction, and many more in the community will have to think twice before joining.

Can we go back to a realistic discussion on improving online communication for a set of participants many of whom are impeded to access high-bandwidth, powerful-interface connections and devices?

Alejandro Pisanty

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Enviado el: lunes, 20 de febrero de 2017 15:54
Hasta: Seth M Reiss
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Asunto: Re: [At-Large] Unsubscribe me please

...I so feel your pain!  I like talking f2f....and reading body language.


Carlton A Samuels
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On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Seth M Reiss <seth.reiss at lex-ip.com<mailto:seth.reiss at lex-ip.com>> wrote:
There used to be two of us on this small Island, and he was good at talking
over a beer, but then he (Randal) left :(

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This is an interesting thread.  However, it tends to express solutions that
are all based on technology.

It has been my experience that technical means of communication work best
when they are punctuated by actual face-to-face meetings.  Now, I do not
mean grand and glorious jet-setting meetings but, rather, informal,
self-organized get-togethers of people in two's, three's, ...
even a dozen.

This kind of face-to-face this is important.  It is pretty amazing what
people can do when they get past the friction and propensity to misconstrue
that comes with electronic communications.

So whatever might be done electronically, I suggest that people consider
meet one another for coffee of a beer and just chat.  Just possibly that
chat might give rise to a solution to some hard problem.  Or it might create
an understanding that lets us step back from the tensions of electronic
communications and say to ourselves - "I have met that
person, I know that he/she is intelligent and well intentioned.
Perhaps our disagreement arises out of misunderstanding one another's words
rather than something of irreconcilable substance."

For example, any one of us could put up a flag - as a tweet or an email or
facebook post - and say something like "Hey, folks, I'm happy to meet with
anyone in the area for coffee or lunch, just drop me a note a xxxx and let's
see if we can get together."

I realize that this is not a useful option for those of us who are not in
population centers, on islands, or others who would find informal, largely
unfocused, small meetings to be expensive or inconvenient.  But consider
that in our new era that we might look for several, overlapping, sometimes
informal means of interaction rather than some single all-encompassing


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