[At-Large] Unsubscribe me please

Winthrop Yu w.yu at gmx.net
Tue Feb 21 01:53:55 UTC 2017

   Didn't know about the At-Large chat, i'm on the ISOC one.

   It's not so much formal versus informal, though yes - it's easier to post a 
detailed substantive reply in an email than in a chat. More important for me is 
that you can't (not easily) separate, fork or rename threads on a chat. 
Everything but the kitchen sink is rolled into one chat thread.

   For example, with the ISOC chat on Skype, i will only rarely check to see 
what the last post was about. I will tend to check more often if i know that 
"something's up", and sometimes the heads-up for that "something" comes to me 
via email lists. With email lists, i can at least readily scan the subject 
lines. Also, when it's a substantive discussion, i will send it to a group of 
people via email so i can more readily file and retrive it for later reference.


P.S.  Locally, we use instant messageing for more immediate stuff - coordinating 
meetings, back channels during hearings, etc. Our problem here is we have too 
many apps - little if any on Skype, some WhatsApp, more on Viber and lots on FB 
Mess (which last i uninstalled from my phone within 48 hours of first installing 

On 2/21/2017 3:32 AM, Joly MacFie wrote:
> Since nobody else has mentioned it, for some years, after having been birthed as
> a backchannel during ICANN Meetings, the At-Large Community on Skype  (128
> participants, admin:Evan Leibovitch) has functioned as pretty much the default
> chat channel for At-Large worldwide. It is browseable, but not searchable AFAIK,
> I doubt anybody ever bothers. Skype chat also is very flexible when it comes to
> forming ad hoc groups.
> Question. Does a chat channel work better for free discussion than email? It may
> be subjective, but it seems the flow of conversation from chat to more formal
> minuted calls works well. Outcomes are then recorded on the wiki.
> Lastly, I will say that, in ISOC, while we hook up in a variety of manners, we
> pretty much exclusively now use Zoom for calls.
> j
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Carlton Samuels
> <carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Joly MacFie
> <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
>     it's main and important function is to provide shallow water for new
>     joiners to get their feet wet, get an idea of the community, and a sense
>     of belonging. A newbie playground. The idea being that the keen ones may
>     graduate to traditional vectors such wg's, email lists, wiki's etc
> I would not argue that there are more efficient ways to organize the
> communications.  But email is always considered a 'come direct to me' mode
> instead of the 'come find me' mode of the website/wiki/portal modalities for
> communication.
> When an ALS is ratified by the ALAC, the email subscription by ALS
> representative to at least the Worldwide list comes with that ratification.
> It follows for pretty much the same reasons -flipped - that Joly outlined in
> the ISOC context.
> Just by modeling of a traditional message, a subject line is meant to
> indicate channel.  The response to the subject line in the content body
> would have been a useful indicator of interest and, driver for that
> channelized discussion.
> But um...........well.....
> -Carlton
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