[At-Large] [ALAC] Idea for an alternative to the EMM proposed in the At-Large Review

Aida Noblia aidanoblia at gmail.com
Wed Feb 15 16:25:00 UTC 2017

I agree with Vanda. Individuals can not be disconnected from RALOS. If
there is one ISOC chapter per country as that organization has, all the
individuals of a country are under a structure like ISOC, all these
structures that are a Chapter by each country, should be under the
structure of the corresponding RALO.

All this seems to me a complication that at the moment is added to other
policy issues that seem to be priorities to enter into contemplating some
individual individuals that could be incorporated. But we do not know how
many will be or if they will really have a stimulus to incorporate in that

Then there would be the issue of voting ... Realmemte this is an extra
complication that should be resolved with more time. In addition: we do not
know how many people can integrate as well, we have no indication that this
will really help to bring more people to work in ICANN. Perhaps the most
practical and also necessary is to focus efforts on integrating more people
who belong to the ALs that already exist into the work of ICANN. ..

I still think that the current structure is good and that before changing
it would have to adjust its operation and efficiency.



2017-02-15 10:58 GMT-03:00 Vanda Scartezini <vanda at scartezini.org>:

> Agree with the problem- be part of an ALS normally demands engagement in
> its work locally. So I am in favor to have individuals as members – even in
> LACRALO we do not have this possibility. May become a good change.
> What I am not in favor is to have individuals disconnected from the Ralos.
> Ralos will have no clear meaning to grow with individuals running in
> parallel , working whatever they want to with not alignment with related
> Ralo.
> Individuals can also join another groups under ICANN struture but will be
> hard to have their work adding value to a particular region if disconnected
> from the formal structure. Having a parallel structure to RALOs do not add
> efficiency to budget and local interest either. Just add another group to
> dispute both.
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> On 2/15/17, 8:49 AM, "at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf
> of Winthrop Yu" <at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of
> w.yu at gmx.net> wrote:
>        Just some thoughts ...
>     > Dev:
>     >     - The motivation for ALSes to market to individuals in their
> country to
>     >     join At-Large is not there as organisations would seek to have
> persons
>     >     join and assist their organisation first than be involved ICANN
> At-Large.
>     >
>        Not necessarily. Instead at ISOC-PH it's the willing and able
> *individuals*
>     who decide which issues to focus on, gather like-minded members and
> get help
>     from the chapter/ALS' other members who may not wish to be as deeply or
>     continuously engaged on a particular issue.
>        I expect that for each ALS there are Internet issues that are
> top-of-mind
>     in-country, for example - i.a. online freedom and net neutrality.
> Clearly one
>     problem would be how to raise awareness about ICANN such that ICANN's
> issues
>     rise on those local top-of-mind rankings. The challenge here is that
>     issues are (understandably) ICANN-centric and often seem far-removed
> from the
>     more urgent issues that concern local Netizens. Thus, as we as a
> chapter/ALS
>     cannot dictate which issues to focus on, then active individuals will
> naturally
>     gravitate towards and engage in those specific issues which seem most
> important
>     to them and where they feel they can best contribute.
>        That being said, it does help when an ICANN rep (like the one who
> flew in
>     last year 2016) has a chance to sit down, chat and get to know at
> least the
>     chapter/ALS officers. This is certainly appreciated and we hope to see
> her again
>     this year. It is hardly helpful if an ICANN rep (like the one who
> flew-in in
>     2015 and 2014) immediately flys-out again after delivering his
> presentation, or
>     (as in early 2014) when senior ICANN officers fly-in at the behest of
> in-country
>     VIPs but without any contact or engagement with the local ALS. This
> simply
>     exacerbates the impression that ICANN's concerns are far removed from
> those of
>     the ALS and local Netizens.
>        Thus i would tend to agree with Maureen ...
>     > Maureen:
>     > YET... despite the argument I provide above, my personal preference
> is still
>     > the current ALS system but working more towards encouraging more
> individual
>     > members to become more active within their ALS at a local level, and
>     > providing evidence of their contribution towards end-user
> participation into
>     > At-Large policy discussions.
>        With the additional proviso that it's not just about getting more
> members to
>     become active, but also that ICANN / At-Large issues should be more
> relevant to
>     the local context, so that members who are inclined to be active will
> be
>     encouraged to engage on those (ICANN) issues.
>     WYn
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