[At-Large] [ALAC] Idea for an alternative to the EMM proposed in the At-Large Review

Mon Feb 13 16:09:57 UTC 2017

In NARALO there are only two countries - Canada and USA (Puerto Rico is a
colony of USA and considered under the USA umbrella).

-ed

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 12:06 PM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I see what you mean Eduardo.
>
> For example, one chapter per country would limit the number of voting
> chapters at election time for some regions... . How many countries in
> NARALO? I think there are over 70 in APRALO.
>
> Will regions have to be changed to allow for more equitable distribution
> of country chapters? I am sure that Cheryl would love to start that
> discussion over again... NOT!
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> I lik ethe idea but need more thinking in its implementation.
>
> For one, by-laws (or something similar) are needed, specially when it come
> to vote for the regional representatives. We need to think if organization
> can become members of these chapters an so on. There could  be one chapter
> per country with one vote per country in the region. Still you need to
> manage all the chapters in the region. Just thinking out loud.
>
> -ed
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 10:52 AM Maureen Hilyard <
> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I like your idea of ICANN chapters within a country or perhaps a subregion
> of a large country.
>
> As an ex-Pres of our Rotary Chapter, I find the Rotary concept
> interesting, but it does set a model that would encourage a wider
> opportunity for outreach as well as education and training, and policy
> input at a country level.. and all organised by the members.  Rotary is
> also self-funding but with the opportunity to get funding from the parent
> body for special projects.
>
> But it would also mobilise large groups of individual members who at least
> have a lot of things in common already as a starting point - language and
> culture,socio-politics, shared internet environment, etc
>
> Sounds a little like the Internet Society of China model with everyone in
> one country under one umbrella.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:04 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Here's an idea for an alternative proposal for At-Large to the EMM model
> proposed in the At-Large Review
>
> My thoughts - The proposed EMM has flaws. Some immediate ones :
>
> - it destroys the community and with that, the consensus building of
> community with replacement
> of individuals with even less ties to the public community. Such
> individuals will promote and collude with other individuals to keep
> themselves in the loop. Also, with many of the policy discussions in GNSO
> being English, this permanently eliminates persons from developing/emerging
> economies from non-English from ever participating.
> - given that any individual could already participate in GNSO, we would be
> no different from such random individuals
> - it removes the mandate on oversight and accountability on ICANN
> activities from end user interests
> - a thousand individuals in one large country will override 10 individuals
> from a small country  so there will be less diversity in the EMM model only
> from those countries with large number of  individuals.
> - Nomcom appointees to ALAC new to ICANN will serve as Liasions to other
> groups is not sensible
>
> There are many more problems but I want to focus on a IMO a better
> At-Large model than the EMM one:
>
> - ICANN establishes At-Large Chapters in each country similiar in concept
> to Rotary or ISOC chapters.
> - each chapter is open to anyone interested in ICANN from the interests of
> end users.
> - ICANN can set guidelines for each chapter - some examples: must do
> certain level of outreach, have term limits, have a public F2F awareness
> meeting to recruit new persons. ICANN would need to provide some funding to
> make this happen but this would be small and the chapters can account to
> ICANN for expenses.
> - ICANN can provide the tools (mailing lists, conference tools) to
> facilitate online discussions.
> - Because there is a consistent brand - At-Large Chapter in the country,
> marketing/promoting is
> greatly simplified and easier to explain.
> - Given that such chapters are virtual, it makes chapters easy to
> establish with only a few individuals from a country without the challenges
> of having formal organisations with bylaws and pay taxes.
>
> So an At-Large chapter ends up being a virtual ALS in each country in the
> ALAC/RALO/ALS model.
>
> The RALOs will consist of the chapters from each country in the region
> with each chapter electing two persons to coordinate the RALO work. The
> RALO will be better positioned to better fulfil its MOUs with ICANN and the
> RALO and ALAC would not have to bother with analysing whether an
> organisation meets the criteria of an ALS.
>
> The At-Large chapters will be better able to network with At-Large
> chapters in other countries and build consensus on policy issues and help
> promote and grow the At-Large Community.
>
>
> ---
> Dev Anand
>
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