[At-Large] I: [ALAC-Announce] ICANN News Alert -- Notice of Preliminary Determination To Grant Registrar Data Retention Waiver Request for Ascio Technologies, Inc. Danmark - filial af Ascio Technologies, Inc. USA

Christian de Larrinaga cdel at firsthand.net
Fri Dec 18 10:33:15 UTC 2015

Hi John, 

Indeed. These are architectural failures across the DNS from design,
operations to policy making. What you are really saying is that DNS is
not working well for operators.

Actually DNS is not working for most of the Internet either, witness we
don't have names resolving to the billions and approaching trillions of
devices and applications services at the edge of data networks.

Sad fact is DNS designed in an era of big iron and a few thousand hosts
has failed to scale beyond the host metaphor which is one factor why we
see so many walled gardens today in IM, VoIP and other applications
managed via private registries.
At the moment it is held together by sticking tape (search, registrar
interventions), and plasters (firewalls).
As somebody must be saying somewhere by now. "There has to be a better


John R. Levine wrote:
>> years to focus on what it is supposed to be doing. Yet it is still
>> fixated on imposing terms that are neither legally required in US and in
>> cases even illegal elsewhere.
> People with no experience with large networks, which includes pretty
> much everyone on the ALAC, often seem to believe that collecting less
> information about domain registrants always improves the privacy of
> Internet users.  The reality is much more subtle.
> The vast majority of users have never registered a domain and never
> will, so WHOIS doesn't affect them, while the vast majority of domains
> are registered for commercial purposes, and a dismaying number for
> criminal purposes.  A large registrar often turns off 10,000 domains a
> day for malware, phishing, and other malevolent behavior.
> The WHOIS information that most of the waivers concern is very useful
> for identifying and dealing with criminals.  That is so even though a
> lot of it is faked, since the crooks tend to have patterns when they
> fake stuff. I'm not guessing about this, I talk to people every day at
> network operators who are protecting their users and law enforcement
> who are protecting their citizens.
> Registrars should certainly comply with their national laws, and I
> agree that some of ICANN's rules are silly, e.g., when they grant a
> waiver, it should automatically apply to other registrars or
> registries in the same jurisdiction.  But when you make it harder to
> tell who's behind a domain, you're also making it easier for criminals
> to siphon the money out of your grandmother's bank account.  That may
> be a reasonable tradeoff, but it's a tradeoff and one that deserves
> better than the kneejerk reeactions we always see here.
> R's,
> John

Christian de Larrinaga  FBCS, CITP,
@ FirstHand
+44 7989 386778
cdel at firsthand.net

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