[At-Large] At-Large Use of Country and Territory Names as Top Level Domains

[Porteneuve Elisabeth (labo)]

Goodmorning,

Are "foreigners" native English speakers?

I do not believe anyone have problem to recognise Confédération 
Helvétique - Swiss Confederation, using 4 official administrative 
languages, that means: French, German, Italian and Romansh.

Khmer is the autonym for the language of the nation of Cambodia, similar 
to Deutsch for the nation of Germany. Therefore .kh and .de, easy.

Apparently even native English speakers know "Full-length names (such as 
.deutchland)" ;-)

 >     The codes that ICANN uses for ccTLDs, especially ones that are
 >     non-intuitive to foreigners (such as .ch for Switzerland, .za for
 >     South Africa or .kh for Cambodia) are based on an ISO standard, ISO
 >     3166-1 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1>, with one notable
 >     exception (use of ,uk when the ISO code for the United Kingdom is 
GB).

Mathematicaly speaking you cannot have 250 alpha-2 codes, all of them 
with 2 initial letters of country name in foreign language (English). 
Not even with 2 inital letters corresponding to the autonym country name.

Best,
Elisabeth Porteneuve
(yes, I work for ISO 3166)
(no, I have no opinion about TLD names, not after 17 years of ICANN)

Le 22/09/2015 10:13, Evan Leibovitch a écrit :
> I note that I did not fully answer Maureen's questions.
>
> The comments of my last message refer only to the ISO-defined
> three-letter strings. Full-length names (such as .deutchland) are not
> protected this way; though I believe the allocation of country-full-name
> strings to third parties to be stupid and generally against the public
> interest, the case against them is not as obvious as for the ISO codes.
>
> Having said this, I personally believe that there should be a moratorium
> of *any* new gTLD applications until a full evaluation of the effect of
> the current expansion is complete.
>
> - Evan
>
>
> On 22 September 2015 at 10:06, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org
> <mailto:evan at telly.org>> wrote:
>
>     To me the answer is self-evident.
>
>     The codes that ICANN uses for ccTLDs, especially ones that are
>     non-intuitive to foreigners (such as .ch for Switzerland, .za for
>     South Africa or .kh for Cambodia) are based on an ISO standard, ISO
>     3166-1 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1>, with one notable
>     exception (use of ,uk when the ISO code for the United Kingdom is GB).
>
>     This same standard also defines three-lettter codes. Because of the
>     definition of a publicly-understood standard, anything besides
>     allocating these ISO codes to the appropriate ccTLDs would cause
>     substantial public confusion.
>
>     - Evan
>
>
>
>
>     On 22 September 2015 at 09:09, Maureen Hilyard
>     <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Dear At-Large members____
>
>         __ __
>
>         Country codes are traditionally a 2-letter string. The new gTLD
>         process is enabling country and territory codes to be expanded
>         to 3-letters (or even as whole names).____
>
>         __ __
>
>         The “Cross Community Working Group for the Use of Country and
>         Territory Names as Top Level Domains” is asking: ____
>
>         __ __
>
>         1. Should these new 3-letter country/territory codes be reserved
>         ONLY as ccTLDs _OR_ should they be open to everyone as gTLDs?
>           (This question refers to 3-letter code IDN ccTLDs and IDN
>         gTLDs as well)____
>
>         __ __
>
>         2. What advantages or disadvantages does your answer offer
>         either group (ccTLDs or gTLDs)?____
>
>         __ __
>
>         Please return your answers to these two questions to me asap. J____
>
>         __ __
>
>         For those who would like to contribute to other questions about
>         this topic please refer directly to the workspace ____
>
>         https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Use+of+Country+and+Territory+Names+as+Top-Level+Domains+Workspace
>         ____
>
>         __ __
>
>         All comments welcome J
>
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>     Evan Leibovitch
>     Geneva, CH
>
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>         Tw: el56
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> Evan Leibovitch
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