[At-Large] Jack Ma New Co-Chair of Global Internet Governance Alliance #AliBaba #GIGA

Sun Jul 5 21:00:21 UTC 2015

lot’s of names but I also am waiting fro something come out - I did not go
to this event, but ICANN staff here went and so did Jean Jacques.
Jean Jacques sent out a new report about the event. Guess worth to read it.
World economic Forum + Alibaba from China + CGI.br + CEO of ICANN  looks an
interesting group to chair this.
 let’s read JJ and debate later. I had no opportunity to read it yet.
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Vanda Scartezini
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Date:  Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 12:09
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Subject:  Re: [At-Large] Jack Ma New Co-Chair of Global Internet Governance
Alliance #AliBaba #GIGA

OK, I'm confused.

We have the Netmundial Event, The Netmundul initiative (NMI) and now GIGA.

The three movers  of NMI are ICANN, the WEF and CGI.br.

> GIGA is co-sponsored by ICANN, the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee and
> the World Economic Forum to provide a platform for the discussion of Internet
> governance solutions.

As far as I understood, the "Brazilian Internet Steering Commitee" *is*
CGI.br

So what is the relationship between NMI and GIGA? Are they parallel orgs?
Was there a rename that I missed?

And Carlton said that

> the Council has formally adopted the Terms of Reference of the NMI that led to
> the Sao Paulo event

(In this context, NMI does *not* appear to refer to the calamotous
"solution in search of a problem" NMI -- the one that ISOC and others have
refused to join -- formed AFTER the Sao Paulo event and seeming to share few
of its values. But rather, it seems to refer to the SP event's own outcomes.
Or do I have that wrong?)

On one hand, I read the news of Chinese participation -- its acknowledgement
of the goals and values of Netmundial -- and share Carlton's optimism. On
the other, I look around and see another new source of needless confusion
and redundancies that make the whole situation even more impenetrable to
non-insiders than before.

On 2 July 2015 at 10:30, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote:
> I joined the event remotely and listened to Ja Ma's speech with keen interest.
> Quite frankly, I was pleasantly surprised how direct he was.
> 
> I cannot be pessimistic as my friend Parminder and would urge us not to make
> the perfect the enemy of the good. For those who went to Sao Paulo and
> followed the evolution of the NMI, the Council has formally adopted the Terms
> of Reference of the NMI that led to the Sao Paulo event. The Council has
> committed to do practical things to advance the outcomes from Sao Paulo,
> including advancing the work and role of the IGF and furthering the objectives
> of WSIS. 
> 
> Good enough.
> 
> Now, Jack Ma (CEO of Alibaba, usually referred in metropolitan publications as
> 'the Chinese e-commerce giant') could have opted to sign up for the World
> Economic Forum (WEF)-led thing, the one that even as it utilised
> Orwellian-derived language to announce itself, baldly refuted the
> multistakeholder, equality-in-access approach to Internet governance. Instead,
> he signed with the Brazilian-initiated initiative. As I listened to Jack Ma, I
> had a sense that he truly understands connecting each of us to all of us is in
> the collective best interest, Alibaba included. I think he gets it that for
> most of us, the Internet is about development. I think he gets it that
> exploiting the Internet for profit does not preclude other dire uses. And he
> definitely understands that intrusions of one or other kind could be inimical
> to all our interests.
> 
> So, what do you do?  I will take the Council's word on its commitment. And
> since they have also embraced a model that allow us to talk to them and let
> them know if they go astray, we have a way to at least enjoin them to account.
> 
> It is as good as it gets.
> 
> -Carlton
> 
> 
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> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> Apologies for the crossposting but this I found interesting:
>> 
>> http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-07/01/c_134373596.htm
>> 
>> SAO PAULO, June 30 (Xinhua) -- Jack Ma, founder of China's ecommerce giant
>> Alibaba, was elected co-chairman of the Global Internet Governance Alliance
>> (GIGA)  at the first general meeting of GIGA council held here Tuesday.
>> 
>> "This election signifies trust in China's Internet, and how China governs its
>> Internet," said Ma.
>> 
>> The meeting was set to discuss key issues related to international
>> cooperation on Internet governance while highlighting China's role.
>> 
>> Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff had called for a just and equal global
>> Internet environment and regarded China as the "key factor to the success of
>> global Internet governance," said Fadi Chehade, president of the Internet
>> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN).
>> 
>> Rousseff had suggested he find Chinese partners for cooperation, Chehade
>> said.
>> 
>> To establish a multiple-stakeholder platform, Chehade said that dialogues
>> among different partners should be improved, the platform should be
>> transparent and just, and all stakeholders should be able to equally
>> participate in global Internet governance.
>> 
>> GIGA is co-sponsored by ICANN, the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee and
>> the World Economic Forum to provide a platform for the discussion of Internet
>> governance solutions.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala T
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>> Suva
>> Republic of Fiji
>> 
>> Cell: +679 7656770 <tel:%2B679%207656770> ;
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>> Twitter: @SalanietaT
>> 
>> 
>> "You will never do anything in this world without courage. It is the greatest
>> quality of the mind next to honour."
>> 
>> Aristotle
>> 
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