[At-Large] R: News on the .health TLD allocation

Carlton Samuels carlton.samuels at gmail.com
Sun Aug 31 20:27:17 UTC 2014


The 70's and 80's witnessed serious pressures on companies outside of Big
Pharma to pack their bags and get out of some markets.  The Cubans, who
developed a fairly decent biomedical/pharma industry because of certain
privations were heavily impacted. In my jurisdiction there were certain
consequences, some of those effects are still being felt today.  If you've
ever heard of Medimpex or even more recently, some cases of Indian generic
manufacturers vs. Big Pharma, it would provide a better sense of why this
matters. So now, we move to the web as part of the delivery process. And
the possibilities to ramp up certain practices become global and readily so.

With respect to ICANN, the problem for those who say 'this has nothing to
do with ICANN' comes down to an inability to see how two seemingly
unrelated matters connect. Sometimes that position is directly connected to
a lack of empathy and not the schooling of dummies.

But invoking that 'Pontius Pilate' claim - I wash my hands of it - is as
old as it is discreditable.

-Carlton


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On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Vanda Scartezini <vanda at uol.com.br> wrote:

> I personally agree with Hong. Besides the impact in US more than other
> regions, what I see is a phenomena similar to what happened with .xxx when
> those running against the law see how easier is to be identified under a
> focused name like this one, and  they will not sign  to be inside. It is
> dangerous than to be open in the cyber space to catch unaware people.  So
> others pharms around the world will face similar conditions.
> To growth, the owners of .health will need to have similar demand for
> registration in other countries.  Since the process is through registrars,
> the way is make similar agreements with locals registrars too. Mostly the
> countries has a register to approved pharmaceutical product  to sell
> inside the country. Last review of Trips also had encourage those
> signatories not focused on such systems to start to work on it for
> commercial/economics reasons.
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> On 8/30/14, 23:19, "Hong Xue" <hongxueipr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >It seems to me the key issue is not whether a pharm. name can be
> >registered in this TLD but whether pharmaceutical product can be offered
> >to sell via that name around the world. Currently, this is definitely not
> >the case. Those legitimate drugs meeting the regulatory or licensing
> >rules in say NL may well be banned in many other countries.
> >If this TLD will primarily focus on us market, it won't be very impactful
> >to other countries .
> >
> >Hong
> >
> >Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 2014年8月30日, at 上午9:28, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >> The issue has been discussed at some length. I haven't checked the
> >>current documents, but at one point, they were saying that to register a
> >>domain, you had to meet the regulatory or licensing rules in your
> >>country of residence. That being said, the monitoring and supporting
> >>organizations they reference are largely US-oriented.
> >>
> >> It remains to be seen if the TLD ends up being largely US-centric, or
> >>has a much wider basis.
> >>
> >> Alan
> >>
> >> At 29/08/2014 06:29 PM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
> >>> I think that parminder raises an interesting point.
> >>> I have never thought it that way - and I don't believe that I am the
> >>>only
> >>> one.
> >>> R.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > -----Messaggio originale-----
> >>> > Da: at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-
> >>> > bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di parminder
> >>> > Inviato: venerdì 29 agosto 2014 20:30
> >>> > A: at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >>> > Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] News on the .health TLD allocation
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Friday 29 August 2014 09:02 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
> >>> > > Dear Rosa,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > thank you very much for this follow-up. Yes indeed, we have seen
> >>>this
> >>> > > allocation.
> >>> > > I note that the successful applicant will enforce restrictions, or
> >>>at
> >>> > > least police applications, in order to reduce the likelyhood of
> >>>fake
> >>> > > pharmacies using the zone.
> >>> >
> >>> > And of course, for a US based organisations, a fake, or less than
> >>>fully
> >>> fine,
> >>> > pharmacy will be a third world organisation selling generic cheap
> >>>drugs,
> >>> that
> >>> > are perfectly legal both in that country and any another third world
> >>> country
> >>> > that it may sell to, but which may not meet the extra ordinarily high
> >>> > intellectual property standards of the US, designed to benefit the
> >>>rich,
> >>> and
> >>> > against the poor... The global techno structures become the new
> >>> > international law, in the manner of the famous saying that ' code is
> >>>law'.
> >>> > while the civil society community around these key governance
> >>>functions
> >>> > seem least bothered... parminder
> >>> >
> >>> > > It would be interesting to see performance metrics of such
> >>>enforcement
> >>> > > a few years down the line.
> >>> > > Kindest regards,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
> >>> > > ALAC Chair
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On 28/08/2014 13:56, Rosa Delgado wrote:
> >>> > >> Dear Olivier and Dev,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Perhaps you have already heard about this news but just in case,
> >>>pls
> >>> > >> find below an interesting link.
> >>> > >> Thank you a lot for the support shown through the Objections
> >>>filed by
> >>> > >> the ALAC All the best, Rosa Delgado
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> *Straat-backed bidder beats Donuts and Afilias to .health*
> >>>DotHealth
> >>> > >> has won the four-way contention set for the controversial new gTLD
> >>> > >> .health.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>>http://domainincite.com/17207-straat-backed-bidder-beats-donuts-and-
> >>> > a
> >>> > >> filias-to-health
> >>> > >>
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