[At-Large] R: Weekly posting summary for at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org

Roberto Gaetano roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com
Fri Jan 31 18:00:42 UTC 2014


I'll let Thomas answer more authoritatively to this question, but for the
completeness of information I would like to add a historic point of view.
Once upon a time, there was the General Assembly list (GA).
Some folks on that list claimed that it was the voice of the people.
However, the noise/signal ratio was incredibly high. Most postings were
signed "Jeff Williams", and were in large part off topic.
When ALAC was being formed, in 2006, I was elected ALAC Liaison to the
Board, and there were discussions about representativity of ALAC.
My claim was that, although ALAC was in formation phase, the content and
weight of the discussion in the At-Large lists was much more important than
what was happening in the GA.
Please be aware that I had emotional links with the GA, of which I have been
the first elected chairperson, back in 2000 or 2001: I am convinced that way
back it had a function and the discussions were lively and useful, but in
time the debate had fallen to abysmal level. So my point was that the
At-Large lists were widely more relevant for the participation of the
general public to ICANN activities.
Thomas, who was at that time also a Board Liaison, and interested in the
inclusiveness of the ICANN processes, started keeping weekly statistics of
the traffic on the GA and ALAC public lists, to support this claim.
This has been going on until nowadays. Incidentally, the statistics on the
GA were also carried on, showing that with the disappearance of Jeff
Williams there is only a message every couple of months or so by George
Kirikos, and the weekly report of Thomas himself.
Personally, I believe that the primary purpose of these statistics is now no
longer interesting: the GA is dead, although not yet formally closed, and
the At-Large is the established mailing list for At-Large participants, so
it could be discontinued without prejudice for ALAC.
On the other hand, for the sake of confidentiality and European data
protection laws, may I observe that the At-Large list is hosted in the US by
ICANN, and publicly available, so all the statistics that Thomas keeps are
based on data that are publicly available and hosted in the US anyway.
This just for completeness of information, as this 

> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:at-large-
> bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di Subrenat, Jean-Jacques
> Inviato: venerdì 31 gennaio 2014 09:12
> A: At-Large Worldwide
> Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for at-large at atlarge-
> lists.icann.org
> 
> Hello Thomas,
> 
> it's been some time that I've been wondering, so let me ask:
> 
> - as experience shows, items outside the duties of At-Large sometimes make
> up a large proportion of email traffic, e.g. sending greetings on
religious
> holidays, or commenting hotel facilities, or get-well messages. Without
any
> mechanism to evaluate the relevance of a message, what is the purpose of
> such statistics?
> 
> - Just as a matter of interest, can such statistics be generated by any
ALAC or
> At-Large member from outside the US, or who does not work in one of the
> larger IT industries in the US and/or the UK?
> 
> - Are these statistics shared with, and analyzed, by any individual/entity
> outside of our ALAC / At-Large community? If so, who/what?
> 
> Thank you.
> Jean-Jacques.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Narten" <narten at us.ibm.com>
> To: at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Sent: Vendredi 31 Janvier 2014 13:53:02
> Subject: [At-Large] Weekly posting summary for	at-large at atlarge-
> lists.icann.org
> 
> Total of 26 messages in the last 7 days.
> 
> script run at: Fri Jan 31 00:53:02 EST 2014
> 
>     Messages   |      Bytes        | Who
> --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
>  23.08% |    6 | 26.27% |    66911 | salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at
gmail.com
>   7.69% |    2 |  9.42% |    24000 | hongxueipr at gmail.com
>   7.69% |    2 |  9.20% |    23439 | parminder at itforchange.net
>   7.69% |    2 |  6.15% |    15671 | evan at telly.org
>   3.85% |    1 |  4.82% |    12279 | plam.popova at gmail.com
>   3.85% |    1 |  4.54% |    11564 | b.schombe at gmail.com
>   3.85% |    1 |  4.09% |    10427 | jjs at dyalog.net
>   3.85% |    1 |  4.04% |    10289 | vanda at uol.com.br
>   3.85% |    1 |  3.94% |    10041 | thompson.darlene at gmail.com
>   3.85% |    1 |  3.80% |     9673 | ocl at gih.com
>   3.85% |    1 |  3.53% |     9005 | eiriarte at alfa-redi.org
>   3.85% |    1 |  3.47% |     8844 | wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net
>   3.85% |    1 |  3.14% |     7999 | staff at atlarge.icann.org
>   3.85% |    1 |  3.05% |     7778 | narten at us.ibm.com
>   3.85% |    1 |  2.76% |     7034 | cw at christopherwilkinson.eu
>   3.85% |    1 |  2.74% |     6969 | seth.reiss at lex-ip.com
>   3.85% |    1 |  2.66% |     6765 | director at icfoss.in
>   3.85% |    1 |  2.38% |     6052 | carlton.samuels at gmail.com
> --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
> 100.00% |   26 |100.00% |   254740 | Total
> 
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