[At-Large] [APAC-Discuss] [ALAC] US Introduces New Cyber Security Bill in Senate

McTim dogwallah at gmail.com
Sun Jan 27 14:46:53 UTC 2013

Hi all,

There are 2 things I don't understand aboout this thread:

1, What's it to do with ICANN?

2.  The Senate bill is seemingly devoid of any content, programs or
plan that would do ANYTHING, let alone fundamentally change the

I think what we are seeing here is knee-jerk reactions.


"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote:
> I believe that it is fundamental that the Internet is a resource not
> only for the US or its citizens/immigrants/non-citizens, its a global
> resource. By no means can one country ensure the sustainability of
> such an expansive and globally used network. The challenge to giving
> up this resource's control shall always be there and other countries
> and regions will continue to dialogue and intervene on issues to make
> it a globally managed and shared resource with no single country
> remaining in control.
> >From where I come, the wide public stereotype belief remains that the
> US may be using the Internet to disrupt public morality and order in
> Pakistan. This is then further emitted towards the government. Though
> Pakistan is seen to remain out of the the Internet public policy
> debates, in the background it appears that the country does not want
> any external country, group or force to interfere with its
> Internetwork. The national exchequer/regulator has also been looking
> into possibilities for taxing foreign internet giants like google. The
> 18th Amendment to the constitution gives provinces more autonomy to
> look after their own issues and explore the opportunity to regulate
> and tax foreign corporation activities in Pakistan. There may be two
> forms of such regulations in the future such as federal and provincial
> regulations.
> Though the issues of civil rights/liberties and privacy are relatively
> new to the population of Pakistan but the population possibly remains
> alien to such issues as access to the Internet is cheap from western
> point of view but according to the local financial and inflation
> situation, its still a very expensive resource.
> Now these insights would have no meaning for US legislators because
> the world from the US point of view is a global government that the US
> must uphold across the globe and our country would become an
> insignificant portion of that global order. These statements and
> claims on the Internet reveal this disparity that the world countries
> are under a global government of one nation that needs to keep the
> network working according to its perception and purview. That is where
> the world comes into conflict with such perceptions.
> Best
> Fouad
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Jean Jacques,
>> I wrote an opinion piece on the new US Cyber Security Bills see:
>> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20130126_pandoras_box_new_us_cyber_security_bills_worm_hole_internet/
>> I agree with your proposal and support it.
>> Best Regards,
>> Sala
>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:41 PM, JJS <jjs.global at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> *Dear Salanieta,*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *thank you for bringing this to our attention. It will be worth following.
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *This draft bill comes on the heels of SOPA and other proposed
>>> legislation which, under the guise of protecting citizens, businesses and
>>> states, would allow public authority to curtail civic and individual
>>> rights, without adequate protection for the Internet user, under the
>>> convenient assumption that what is good for a sovereign state is of
>>> necessity good for its citizens.*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *It is in this context, and in the face of this growing threat, that I
>>> proposed, during an ALAC monthly meeting, that we take up the subject of
>>> existing and foreseeable infringements on civic and individual rights, such
>>> as the expanding practice of DPI without proper parliamentary oversight
>>> (and this is done not only in states governed by a single political party
>>> without representative democracy).*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Best regards,*
>>> *Jean-Jacques.*
>>> 2013/1/26 Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <
>>> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> The US Senate has introduced a new Cybersecurity Bill through Senators
>>>> John
>>>> D. (Jay) Rockefeller IV, Chairman of the Senate Commerce, Science, and
>>>> Transportation Committee, Tom Carper, incoming Chairman of the Senate
>>>> Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and Dianne
>>>> Feinstein,
>>>> Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence where they made a
>>>> Press Release, see:
>>>> http://commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=7a7124d7-190c-4160-abf3-4012c2db737c
>>>> To see the Bill, visit:
>>>> http://commerce.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=b678eb9a-b5c1-4540-aca3-3e857c7627da
>>>> This is interesting and relevant as far as it pertains to critical
>>>> information infrastructure that the US considers to be part of the US
>>>> Infrastructure. Whilst the models point to public private collaboration
>>>> which makes sense because it is the private sector that controls much of
>>>> the infrastructure anyway except in situations where if there were a State
>>>> of Emergency and the rights to control/access infrastructure by the State
>>>> and it has its challenges.
>>>> This Bill affects ICANN's operations as well hence the relevance.
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> --
>>>> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala
>>>> P.O. Box 17862
>>>> Suva
>>>> Fiji
>>>> Twitter: @SalanietaT
>>>> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro
>>>> Tel: +679 3544828
>>>> Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851
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>> --
>> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala
>> P.O. Box 17862
>> Suva
>> Fiji
>> Twitter: @SalanietaT
>> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro
>> Tel: +679 3544828
>> Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851
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> --
> Regards.
> --------------------------
> Fouad Bajwa
> ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor
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