[At-Large] R: Board solicitation of input on how it should receive input and advice

[Cheryl Langdon-Orr]

Roberto  what you propose 're the requirements for Board explanations
around decisions taken in a way that shows how community input was
considered and for more effective and timely  feedback is in keeping with
what the ATRT  heard was desired by the Community and with what we
recommended... so I see this as an opportunity to build on that and indeed
try to give such change  its proper momentum...

On Oct 3, 2012 9:39 PM, "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I agree with Evan's analysis but disagree on the conclusions.
> I will submit a personal comment - will work on it over the weekend.
> The concept that I would like to express is that the problem is not so
much
> the way the input is collected, but what happens afterwards. Namely, for
> each given community statement there should be a thorough explanation on
why
> the Board has disregarded it, if this is the case (as it often is).
> Let's be clear: there might be very good reasons for the Board not taking
> into account community input, and I personally remember discussions when I
> was on the Board on how to include community input in decisions. However,
as
> an individual community member who has no access to complete records of
> Board discussions, I find the feedback from the Board not thorough enough
to
> make me confident that all Directors have even read the comments before
> deliberating.
> I think we should not waste the opportunity to put some comments on
record,
> even if I agree that we have bigger fish to fry at this point in time.
> Cheers,
> R.
>
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:at-large-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di Evan
> Leibovitch
> Inviato: mercoledì 3 ottobre 2012 09:25
> A: At-Large Worldwide
> Oggetto: Re: [At-Large] Board solicitation of input on how it should
receive
> input and advice
>
> On 2 October 2012 23:40, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
>
> > I call your attention to a recently opened Public Comment in which the
> > ICANN Board solicits input on how it should receive input and advice
> > in making its decisions.
> >
>
>
> *Dear sirs,*
>
> *Thoroughly and transparently.*
>
> *Sincerely,*
> *The ALAC*
>
>
>
> > I have been asked by Olivier to lead the development of an ALAC
> > contribution, supported by Cheryl.
> >
>
> I add this to the never-ending pile of diversionary ICANN procedural time
> wasters, especially in regard to ALAC advice.
>
> Our methods for providing advice are fine, and for us to refine
internally.
> The Board's methods for considering that advice stink; however they are
not
> within the scope of this soliticitation. They don't even know the right
> question to ask; instead all we have, really, is a public comment process
to
> talk about public comment processes, the height of absurdity. As such, the
> reply I've suggested above should be more than sufficient.
>
> The boundless capacity of the Board to waste its community volunteers'
time
> is truly something to behold.
>
> - Evan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > The public comment description can be found at
> >
> > http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/input-advice-function-24se
> > p12-en.htm
> > .
> >
> >
> > Input should preferably be made to the At-Large Wiki at
> > https://community.icann.org/x/K5AoAg. If anyone cannot cannot access
> > the Wiki to submit comments, please submit your comments to this list
> > WITH AN EXPLICIT REQUEST TO POST TO THE WIKI at the start of the
message.
> >
> > The comment period ends shortly after the ICANN meeting. I normally
> > have abundant time to work on such statement en route to ICANN
> > meetings, but in this case my flight time is under an hour, so my
> > work-methods must change. PLEASE your thoughts by the end of the day
> > (wherever you are) next Tuesday, October 9th. Hopefully draft will be
> > prepared for discussion and then decision during the ICANN week.
> >
> > Alan
> >
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