[At-Large] [APAC-Discuss] Draft Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement on IP

Hong Xue hongxueipr at gmail.com
Sun Sep 9 07:14:08 UTC 2012

> Hmmm, helluva thing.....wonder what the fellas in South Korea, China and
> India are thinking?

Korea has signed the FTA with US so may well be on the way to join the
negotiation perhaps after Japan's formal participation.

India is not a Pacific country geographically but it all depends on

China has strongly felt that it is being surrounded by this
"partnership" net by its long Pacific coast. Although China has
expressed its interested in at least observing the negotiation at last
APEC summit in November 2011, it was turned down. It is unlikely that
China would be welcome in at the APEC summit right now in Russia.


> On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <
> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The TPP will be worse than the SOPA.
>> Add this to the EFF link:-
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/27/pacific-free-trade-deal
>> ****
>> ** **
>> **
>> http://www.alternet.org/story/156059/trans-pacific_partnership%3A_under_cover_of_darkness%2C_a_corporate_coup_is_underway
>> This was sent to me by one of the members of the ALS that I am a part of.
>> Pay particular attention to the "NAFTA" on steroids bit. What is also
>> interesting is the news that Russia has just signed an MoU with the US
>> strengthening greater partnership, notwithstanding the support that it got
>> from the US in joining the WTO, You can imagine that if Russia is persuaded
>> to join the TPP then the likelihood that they will receive the relevant
>> traction to widen the circle of the TPP Party/Parade will definitely cause
>> the concerns that was raised by the EFF that was shared to us by Carlton,
>> see:
>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/08/tpp-creates-liabilities-isps-and-put-your-rights-risk to
>> be a reality in the not too distant future. This means ISP liabilities
>> amongst a host of other things.
>> On another note, Mr Wu Hongbo is the new Under Secretary General for the
>> United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs (UNDESA), see:
>> http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/usg/index.shtml
>> For developing countries, the concept of "free trade" may sound lucrative
>> but the reality is that it only disadvantages one (the loser). There is no
>> such thing as a free lunch. To see why this is relevant to our discussions,
>> I recommend visiting the link that Carlton shared earlier.
>> I find the US position on this to be schizophrenic because on one end they
>> are proclaiming an open and free internet and taking extraordinary measures
>> to run miles away from any Treaty negotiations (please note that I am not
>> for nor against Treaties, merely thinking critically about the issues) and
>> yet they are going to extraordinary lengths to go around the world by
>> sending their highest political officer to gain momentum for the TPP.
>> It brings to mind that nations at the end of the day are about interests
>> and "as long as it suits them". I will also hasten to add that there are
>> many citizens in the US who are also wanting greater transparency around
>> the TPP negotiations as it is likely to impact the architecture of the
>> Internet and the rules of the game.
>> Kind Regards,
>> Sala
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Carlton Samuels <
>> carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Here's a development you might wish to follow.  Some analysts say it is
>>> even more dangerous than pernicious ACTA to the public interest. Those
>>> countries in the L & CA region with a Pacific littoral may be party to it.
>>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/08/tpp-creates-liabilities-isps-and-put-your-rights-risk
>>> - Carlton
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