[At-Large] [GTLD-WG] Amazon, Google And Others Going After Generics

[Fouad Bajwa]

+1 William and Carlton!

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On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Carlton Samuels
<carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote:
> The ALAC has been mulling over a few tidbits, one or so of which could be
> used to amplify this.
>
> I'm for further exploration towards maybe joint action.
>
> - Carlton
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> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:12 AM, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>wrote:
>
>> Insofar as this frustration is shared by ALAC and NCSG and probably both
>> would like to see the questions posed clearly and responded to in Prague,
>> perhaps it'd be useful to discuss this at our Monday meeting with an eye
>> toward some joint action?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>>
>> > I'd go for some combination of the first 3 reasons.
>> >
>> > avri
>> >
>> >
>> > Evan Leibovitch <evanleibovitch at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The results indicate one or more of a couple of causes, depending on
>> >> perspective:
>> >>
>> >> - The ICANN publicity campaign for applicant support was so utterly
>> >> pathetic, that only people already close to the process understood
>> >> enough
>> >> to take advantage of the opportunity;
>> >>
>> >> - It's official; ICANN is a rich world organization serving rich world
>> >> players, and only plays lip service to a global scope. The applicant
>> >> support program made for good optics, but ICANN had no interest in its
>> >> actually working. That a handful of insiders were able to exploit,
>> >> enables
>> >> those inside the bubble to still pretend that ICANN has worldwide
>> >> sensibilities.
>> >>
>> >> - Any claim that the bottom up process works, our that the public
>> >> interest
>> >> had a voice in ICANN, was definitively put to rest. This program was
>> >> asserted on an unwilling Board, staff and industry by the public
>> >> interest
>> >> community, the first ever major policy initiative of this kind. So
>> >> naturally, it never stood a chance.
>> >>
>> >> - There truly is no demand for gTLDs outside the ICANN bubble of
>> >> speculators and name-protectors, along with a handful of internet
>> >> infrastructure providers. Only insiders are deluded enough to perceive
>> >> that
>> >> ANY money given to ICANN is money well spent on improving access or
>> >> development. Community organizers - especially the ones targeted for
>> >> applicant support - would rather spend their limited funds locally. IOW
>> >> ...  in the real world outside ICANN, gTLDs -- even subsidized -- are
>> >> unnecessary vanity items that do not benefit providers or consumers of
>> >> internet content and services.
>> >>
>> >> The first explanation indicates incompetent execution of ICANN's
>> >> mandate.
>> >> The second indicates an intolerable bias in interpreting the mandate.
>> >> The
>> >> third suggests a horrible breakdown in the governance of the mandate.
>> >> And
>> >> the fourth suggests that the mandate itself is fundamentally flawed.
>> >>
>> >> Take your pick. They're not mutually exclusive.
>> >> On Jun 16, 2012 10:46 PM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> The three support applications are particularly disappointing in
>> >>> light of all three being from long-time ICANN participants.
>> >>>
>> >>> Alan
>> >>>
>> >>> At 16/06/2012 01:15 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Indeed, the outreach plan was a failure in so many respects, and
>> >>>> people have been complaining about it for a while to no avail, even
>> >>>> while there was still a chance to fix it. And we see the results: 17
>> >>>> applications from Africa and 3 applicant support applications.  And
>> >>>> while I was hopping that 10 - 20 of the applications would be from
>> >>>> ASP applicants, I meant of the global total, not of the African
>> >> total.
>> >>>
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